I need help with a Remington 700 .223

[josebd]

I bought a sps brand new,20" barrel,I didn't shoot it until I got a h-s precision stock,it was used and it look like it had been bedded about a inch or two forward of the recoil lug.it grouped really good,I just didn't like it because it was hard to keep still.so I ordered a bell and Carlson with the wide forearm on the bottom for bench shooting.now I can even get close to what it grouped like with the h-s stock?
Do I need to bed the bell and Carlson stock?do I bed it the inch or so forward of the recoil lug?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Yes, you should bed any stock. I tested bedding under the chamber. It does nothing. I do not bed in front of the recoil lug.

 

[carlsbad]

I agree with what Alex said but if the bell and carlson has aluminum rails, like most do, then you shouldn't be having problems like you're describing.

And as Alex says, bedding under the first inch of the barrel shouldn't be done. Often, what looks like bedding in that location is really just epoxy to hold the recoil lug area stable. The barrel had tape on it during bedding and didn't touch.

What else did you change? Ammo? did you take the scope off? Make sure it is tight.

 

[josebd]

I have a load with varget at 25.3,68 bthp Hornady that shoots lights out in my other two bench guns which are savage's,never any problems with them!I shot a very good 5 shot group with the h-s precision stock,now with the b&c stock no where close.im not a world class shooter,but I'm 49 years old,been shooting off the bench a good 15 years,been around guns all my life.
This thing is very frustrating,I had one in a 16 inch barrel,last year,same thing,bought a b@c stock,shot very good

 

[carlsbad]

not adding up.

 

[Riesel]

Review the "Check your bedding video" from Alex Wheeler and see if your action is under stress in that new stock. You may need to consider skim bedding.

 

[carlsbad]

One thought. Make sure your recoil lug isn't bottoming out and holding the front of the action up. I've had to shorten several recoil lugs lately.

Second, I use AI chassis' with machined aluminum blocks for quick test stocks. I've had very good luck with these stocks. The blocks are very straight and square. If the BC isn't straight/square it could put stress on the action.

--Jerry

 

[Travelor]

Sounds as if the action/stock fit has some issues.

There are always manufacturing tolerances in both stocks and actions. I always bed my rifles even when they have a aluminum bedding block and this always results in better groups.

 

[kendog]

Another thing to check is guard screw clearance, and also sometimes the fore arm slaps the barrel when the gun is fired. This was a common problem with the first Rem 700 PSS's that had HS stocks with "short" bedding blocks. Later HS stocks extended the block to stiffen the fore arm.

 

[josebd]

When bedding,do you tape the recoil lug on the back,front,sides?
Or just the front and sides?

 

['Freak]

The B&C or any other including the high dollar “name” aluminum bedding block equipped stocks might’ve been machined perfectly true but after heat treating the 700 action is likely no longer ‘true’. Bed it “stress free”.

 

[josebd]

With this stock do I just rough up the area where the action screws are,it's aluminum in those area,then on the sides,Drexel in some little notches so the bedding compound can stick to it?

 

['Freak]

Look see under Ernie’s “Odds and Ends”
http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/c41_p1.html
No. 1 and No. 3 show ~ why most all stocks will still need bedding proper
No. 6 is a good show & tell how to bed an aluminum bedding block equipped stock