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I Luv My 6PPC

GSPV

A failure to plan is a plan for failure.
I'm just learning to shoot and load, but I'm loving my PPC. If you like to punch little holes and don't mind a bit of tinkering, buy a used good shooter and go for it.

This is the first load that I tried, the first brass I prepped, etc.

Lovin' every minute of it...
 

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GSPV: Yes, I agree: great 'little' ctg., and although usually thought of as being a 'short-range ctg', I recently joined a nearby club that provides 300 yd BR, so just yesterday, pushed mine to a little beyond what is thought of as the normal limit of 200 yd. With 28 grs. of N133 and the Sierra 70 gr. HPBT #1505, seated to touch, 5 shot groups at 300 yd. hovered around 1', and that was in 'breezy' wind conditions. Now, if I just had a 400 yd range------:)
 
Mr. GSPV....Yep---6PPC's will certainly spoil you as far as
consistant accuracy is concerned-I have 2 6PPC's and love
them both especially my Shilen. Your group is good and the
more you shoot the better you and it will get--keep up the
good work. gpoldblue
 
GSPV, again). More 'good news' about the 6ppc. After yesterdays 300 yd session, cleaned the barrel using my normal methods & products, then 'scoped the condition of the barrel with my 'Hawkeye' borescope. At a documented, I keep a log book for each rifle), 1985 rds, fired, there is no sign of firecracking in front of the chamber. So, the 6ppc is certainly no 'barrel burner' as are some of the larger, overbore 6mms'.:)
 
I don't know anything about measuring groups, so I can't say what it is. I just slapped my calipers on it and it's between .345 and .346 edge-to-edge.

Cecil Tucker sold me his old rifle when he got an itch to build a new one. It's a Grizzly II RBLPRE in a redwood stock that Cecil made. Jewell trigger. Bartlein barrel. .262 neck. Cecil's reamer. It has like 70 thou freebore. T36 w/ dot. Kelbly rings.

Cecil told me to try 29 grains of N133 and that's what it is, behind some of Cecil's BT bullets that he gave me to get started. .257 bushing. If you measure with a Sinclair do-hickie, it's 2.583. Fed 205M primer. I played with 27.0 up to 29.5, but 29.0 and 29.1 looked best.

The load below,.330 edge-to-edge)is all the same but a Berger FB match at 2.622 with the do-hickie. I think it's still in the lands. I'm working my way in 'ladder style', shooting 3-shot groups.

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GSPV: If your edge to edge group measures .345', subtract bullet dia. from that measurement and your group size is .102'/ Excellent!:)
 
I just put two 6PPC barrels on two of my Rem 700 SA rifles, and I am extremely inpressed with the consistent accuracy. I have found it easy to shoot 5 groups to 10 groups with great accuracy...you can cover 5 shot groups with a Bayer Asperin. The Bayer Asperin is actually a large group. I shoot the 6BR, too, and I find the 6PPC much more consistent. The 6PPC is great for extreme accuracy, low recoil, small powder use, easy on barrels, and not much noise. I plan to shoot some varmints with mine...both PD and Coyote. Enjoy those 6PPC's they are sweet. the colonel.
 
fdshuster said:
GSPV: If your edge to edge group measures .345', subtract bullet dia. from that measurement and your group size is .102'/ Excellent!:)

If you look in the original picture, and count the 1/16ths, you can see that it's a skosh more than 5/16 =~ .3125. It's over because I didn't get the zero fully to the bottom of the bottom hole.

A single holes looks like less than .243. So, I don't think it'd be fair to subract bullet diameter.

Hopefully, we'll get good weather Sunday and I can punch some more holes...
 
GSPV: One of your previous postings: ' I don't know anything about measuring groups, so I can't say what it is. I just slapped my calipers on it and it's between .345 and .346 edge-to-edge'. I used the information you provided to give an idea of a simple, quick method, without investing big bucks in laboratory quality equipment that is necessary to arrive at measurements to the 'Nth' degree. If that is what you are now looking for, I suggest you invest the big bucks in one of the measuring devices that are used at 'The Super Shoot', and elsewhere. I myself am satisfied in using Minute-of-Angle as a reference.
 
333smitty said:
Looks like a fine .340' group. Give us some rifle and load info.

Think you might wanna look at that group again. Looks like a small to mid one to me, and I'm not one to give much credit to internet groups. I see bunches of folks post pictures of high ones with a notation on the target indicating a zero group. The second group pictured is damn close to a screamer...if it aint.
 
333smitty said:
The group size in post #1 appears to be 2 and 1/2 bullet holes.

243 + 243 + 120 = 606 - 243 = 363 If its a 22 it would measure
approx 330

My bad if I am missing something....

It's a 3 shot group in a sideways Mickey Mouse. The extreme is on the two vertically-oriented holes. They're overlapping. It's just hard to see because it got down into the back 'dot' and there is a stray horizontal line there where I had to go over the 'crosshairs' and dot with a Sharpie because my printer's black cartridge was getting low,and I'm too cheap to throw them away and print again).

If you look really close, you can see that the zero on the ruler is very close to being tangent to the bottom of the bottom-most hole.

I asked about estimating groups over on BR Central. Two fellows said that a good approximation is to measure the extreme and a single hole in the same paper and subtract the single from the group's extreme. I'll start going down that route.

GSPV
 
Got any wind flags............ Wether for competition or not.....

You want to shoot SMALL..... This rig and your shooting potential require a set...

You will not be disapointed.

cale
 
333smitty said:
GSVP My bad. Your group is a screamer.Thats one fine lookin rifle. Enjoy.

Smitty, I understood the mistake. No problem here. Friend, I'm so green, I don't even know what a screamer is.
 
caroby said:
Got any wind flags............ Wether for competition or not.....

You want to shoot SMALL..... This rig and your shooting potential require a set...

You will not be disapointed.

cale

Cale, I'm working on real wind flags. In the interim, I've been using surveyor's tape on a stick. I'm just starting to learn to use them.

Wind flags look so simple that I'm having a hard time buying them, but I'm pretty busy with kids, work and honey-do's that the project is dragging out.

I'm visiting the Super Shoot this weekend. I might spring for an 'OEM' set there if I can get the accoutant/wife to look the other way for a couple of minutes :D

GSPV
 
I've been using surveyor's tape on a stick

Hey it's a start.....


I'm visiting the Super Shoot this weekend. I might spring for an 'OEM' set there if I can get the accoutant/wife to look the other way for a couple of minutes

You'll be HOOKED...........!!!!!!! Mucho Accuracy..!
Your Wife will have to be forgiving....!;) Hopefully..

Welcome to the realm of EXTREME ACCURACY.

cale
 
Hi, I just got 6mm ppc rifle. It is heavy barrel 26' with 1-14 twist
Here some pictures of my rifle:
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The trigger is around 1lb. Just touch it and it goes off.
I've got some ammo with the rifle. The neck is 0.261 in both fired and unfired rounds. I shot 9 rounds and only 6 rounds left :,
Shot cases are different :
1.454, 1.456. 1.45, 1.455, 1.452, 1.456, 1.49, 1.471, 1.462.
What is correct size of the shell or it is depend on the rifle?
Can i just take new 220 Russian brass, size with 6mm pps die, load it, shoot and trim to necessary size or it has to be sized with 6mm die and trimmed before shooting?

Do you use 220 Russian brasses to form 6mm cartridge?

What bullets, powder and primers do you use for 300m accuracy shootings? What is Cartridge Overall Length and length of the brass itself?

Sorry for so many questions, but I want to start right.
Please reply to j_m_ru@yahoo.com.

Thanks,
Joe
 
Sorry for so many questions, but I want to start right.

Read these........
http://www.benchrest.com/FAQ/

http://www.6mmbr.com/6PPC.html

Nice Sleeved Rem... If metal work competent and the barrel has min rounds... It'll shoot dots.

Incoming E-mail...........

cale
 

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