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I introduce the Dasher Twins

I now have two Bat action Dashers up and running. I purchased my second rifle from a gentleman here whom posted his model B Terry Leonard stock in the classifieds a week or so back.
I now have a Krieger 8 Twist on the Model B action and the Brux 8 Twist on my MB action also with the Terry Leonard stock.

Here are a few pics of the pair.

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The MB action

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The B action

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The rifle shoots well, I begun a bit of load testing to see what it likes and so far with the Hybrids it appears it's going to be somewhere around 36.0-36.2 grains of 4350

The fog has been hard on me the past two mornings testing as I had to wait nearly two hrs Saturday morning and over an hour this morning. As I got to my third and final test groups today the fog rolled in on me once again and as it lifted enough that I could barely see the orange sighter on my target at 500 yards I put two shots under 1/2" and the third shot went right and made a group of around 1.750 I'm not sure if it was me and the fog to had pulled that shot or what but I'm gonna test again with bullet a couple thousands longer on seating depth and retest the 36.0 and 36.2 and just see.

The 22 Dasher is shooting right around 1.250-1.350 for three shots at 500 yards so I'm gonna stick with that load and seating depth for time being.

A bit of info on my 22 Dasher, brass likes to flow pretty often up into the necks on these cases for what ever reasons, so I had a inside reamer made to cut .0002 larger than my bullet dia. I run the reamer inside the case necks to cut out any tight spots and then I resize the case and neck it back up with my expander mandrel so I can again run my neck turner over the outside. I have a much truer neck dia and runout on a loaded round measures .0008on an optical comparator by testing 10 loaded rounds. And loaded rounds are concentric to .00012 on the comparator as well. Once I do this I always go back and retest my loads since I do somewhat change seating tension on the loaded rounds.
My initial load was 35.8 grains of H4350 so I tested 35.8, 35.9 and 36.0 grains of H4350. For those that claims and has said .1 grain don't make a difference, I beg to differ. I've seen it show on paper too many times and below are the results of testing once more yesterday after I reworked my cases. You will see two sets of 35.8 grain charges the top left was shot after the case necks were reworked and the bottom right was leftover rounds from my last match in NC. There's about .090 difference between those two groups.


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Those are VERY nice looking rifles James. The "reddish" one looks like a carbon-fiber stock. Am I correct? I have been considering for quite some time now to give H4350 a shot on my Dasher(s).. 'taint it fun to always be trying our new cartridges? I love it.
 
ShootDots said:
Those are VERY nice looking rifles James. The "reddish" one looks like a carbon-fiber stock. Am I correct? I have been considering for quite some time now to give H4350 a shot on my Dasher(s).. 'taint it fun to always be trying our new cartridges? I love it.

Benjamin,

Thanks for the compliment. Both stocks are wood with carbon fiber laminated in separate layers.

The deep red colored one you speak of I believe is rosewood and the lighter stock is made from Claro. This is what I've Been told from original owners.

22Dasher,

I never dreamed of owning one rifle made with a Leonard stock much less two and both being Bat actions as well. I'm not sure if there's any better combo for looks and of course accuracy.
 
JAMES!!! You have to stop. You have enough nice guns, and now these? I can't stay in the "Arms Race" with you. My economy is collapsing, my citizens are revolting. You win! Beautiful guns, too. I'll trade you 3 peasant goyls and a cow...😳
 
First off, nice rifles....congrats!

On the 22dasher, are you shooting 90's? If so, what speeds are you getting out of them?
 
22DASHER said:
I can't really lie about this.... Pretty jealous right about now...... :-[

Sweet, sweet rifles


Me too.......

The jealousy factor is high today....

Phil.

James, that`s quite a pair to draw to....
 
Judd said:
First off, nice rifles....congrats!

On the 22dasher, are you shooting 90's? If so, what speeds are you getting out of them?

Judd,

I'm shooting the Sierra 80's at 3400 fps


Thanks guys for the compliments. The pictures really don't do these fine stocks justice from a cell phone. Maybe one day I'll get out my photography equipment and setup and do some professional shots of the pair.
 
JamesnTN said:
Judd said:
First off, nice rifles....congrats!

On the 22dasher, are you shooting 90's? If so, what speeds are you getting out of them?

Judd,

I'm shooting the Sierra 80's at 3400 fps


Thanks guys for the compliments. The pictures really don't do these fine stocks justice from a cell phone. Maybe one day I'll get out my photography equipment and setup and do some professional shots of the pair.

Gotcha...I really want to build one to shoot the 90's, their BC is incredible and on paper should be better than the 105 hybrids.
 
Judd said:
JamesnTN said:
Judd said:
First off, nice rifles....congrats!

On the 22dasher, are you shooting 90's? If so, what speeds are you getting out of them?

Judd,

I'm shooting the Sierra 80's at 3400 fps


Thanks guys for the compliments. The pictures really don't do these fine stocks justice from a cell phone. Maybe one day I'll get out my photography equipment and setup and do some professional shots of the pair.

Gotcha...I really want to build one to shoot the 90's, their BC is incredible and on paper should be better than the 105 hybrids.

You need to chat with Rodney Wagner on the 90's as I believe he tried them. With the cost of barrels and having one chambered I gave up on building a setup around one particular bullet. If it doesn't work you have a huge investment for nothing.
 
Hi members. I am Australian.
This is my first login to the forum. Hope i make sense.
I am a licensed Kangaroo harvester working on skin harvesting in western Queensland.
I reckon that i would be the only 'roo shooter to have a 22 BR-DX bulit on a Ruger M77 with a Maddco 1:14 stainless match barrel in the Ruger Varmint profile, which has just over 2000 rounds through it now.
It can group 1/4" at 100 meters off the door rest of my vehicle. On the first trip with it I cleaned up 112 'roos with headshots at anything up to 200 meters before a miss.
Never done that in years of using other 22 cal rifles. including a 220 Swift.
What i would like to ask is, does anybody have any speed statistics for 40 grain bullets in the 22 BR-DX ?
40 grain and 45 grain is what I shoot because heavier bullets penetrate too deep. It shoots real flat out to well beyond the 200 meter range ( 200 meters is 220 yards ).
I usually load 33 grain of Benchmark 8208 and reckon it must be somewhere near 4000 f/s but don't have a chrono to measure it with.
Any help will be appreciated.
 
Licensed Kangaroo Shooter said:
What i would like to ask is, does anybody have any speed statistics for 40 grain bullets in the 22 BR-DX ?
40 grain and 45 grain is what I shoot because heavier bullets penetrate too deep. It shoots real flat out to well beyond the 200 meter range ( 200 meters is 220 yards ).
I usually load 33 grain of Benchmark 8208 and reckon it must be somewhere near 4000 f/s but don't have a chrono to measure it with.
Any help will be appreciated.

In my 22 Dasher, which James n Tn now owns, I shot the 40 or 45 V-Max at 4100 fps and is was deadly accurate
 
Hi Birdog,
Thank you for the info. I figured it would be around that.
I find the 22 BR-DX with 40 grain hollow points to be about 1/2" high at 120 yds and about 1" low at 250 yds.
In the field, taking quick shots off a door rest, I can't hold it that close. Only on a target.
So it means just point it at the sweet spot on the head and it will hit within 1" at anything out to 250 yds. Plenty accurate enough for the clean efficient kills we are required to take under the license requirements. No other hit is acceptable and will result in a fine of over AUD$100 if caught with one in my posession not head shot. Even a neck shot is not acceptable.
This 22 BR-DX has been a godsend for productivity.
I went with the BR-DX because it has the slightly longer neck. Gives me a bit more scope for seating depth. Although I must say that seated at the base of the neck has always proven best. Distance off the rifling lands does not seem to be so important.
My son has my old rifle. It is a 6mm BR-DX and he has found the same.
I changed to the 22 version purely because it will shoot the lighter projectiles. Which do not penetrate all the way through the heads. Therefore the bullet does not damage the skin at all.
Thanks again for the info.
 

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