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I did it! 1820 yard PD with VHA witness.

After pretty much getting rained out back in September, I went back to Wyoming this week with the .284 Shehane for another attempt at the 1 mile prairie dog kill. The weather was beautiful Sunday afternoon with hardly a breeze stirring and I couldn't wait for my VHA spotter (Brian Kelly from California) to get there, so I set up at what I thought was a mile and the gun was singing. I made several shots in a row on an active mound (at what my GPS said was a mile) that all looked like hits, but none left a dead dog lying on the mound. I went out to check for blood and found that I had indeed made a hit (see photo). My spotter Brian got there five minutes later and I took him out and showed him. We lasered the distance at 1644 yards the next morning (Monday).

I made several very, very close shots Monday morning before the mirage got too bad and then I spent the rest of the day helping my spotter learn to shoot long distance. (He had been amazed by my 1296 yard shot a year and a half ago and wanted to see how that could be done, so we have been planning to meet in Wyoming for a shoot ever since.) He killed several dogs out to 380 yards that day. He said they were the first living things he had ever shot with a gun.

The next morning (Tuesday) we set up for the mile shot early and I shot 48 rounds all together. Both of us saw the dog in the second photo vanish without the usual flash as they jump down the hole. Brian said, "It looked like you hit that one. Do you want to go and check for blood?" I said no, I'm going to shoot at the ones on the next mound over while they are still there. We both forgot about going out to check on this one after a half hour of concentrating on other shots. The cows knocked down my 1 mile marker flag (maybe it was the red driveway reflector on it) so we went out to fix it and found out that I DID kill that dog! The shot had knocked it just over the mound far enough that we couldn't see it from the bench. It lasered out to 1820 yards, or 1 mile and 60 yards.

I spent the rest of the day spotting for Brian again and he finally nailed one at 593 yards, which will get him into the 500 yard club. He kept complaining about how little they looked in the scope at 15x, so I cranked him up to 25x (which changed the holdover) and that helped him a lot. He couldn't see his own hits anyway like I had been doing at a mile. Wednesday morning I fired about 20 rounds at 2000 yards and I let him see what they looked like at that distance at 12x, which was where I was shooting. He couldn't believe I could even shoot at them that way. To be honest, I often had to crank the magnification up to 25x to see where they were and then back down to 12x for the shot. The Schmidt and Bender FFP 50x PMII was great with the 20 MOA rail. I was able to get out to 2000 yards with it with no problem, but because of recoil and trying to see my own hits to confirm that we saw the same thing, I was shooting at 12x. That makes the field of view wide enough that you can get the gun back in place enough to see the hit in the five seconds it takes the bullet to get there.
 

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congrats ,,,,,that is LONG shot,,,,nice country in the background,,,,,most guns shoot a 30-40" group at that distance (good guns that is) even if your rite on it is a crap shoot on a target the size of pop can,,,Roger
 
Wow...yes that is a ways out there for sure! Not too many can say they have killed a prairie poodle out that far. I enjoyed the story too. Now you need to go for the 2000 yard-er. :o ;D
 
Yep. That is why it takes around 50 shots to connect. 50 shots in a 1/4" hole at 100 yards looks like a shotgun blast from 200 yards at a mile. It's pretty easy to fit a prairie dog in between the holes in a pattern like that, but sooner or later one of them will get him.
 
You know, I keep reading how the 1000 yard comp shooters want to hold 2" vertical to be competitive. Wouldn't that be 4" vertical at 2000 yards? That would increase chances of making these long shot PD kills greatly. That is what I was going for with the BAT MB action and 32" 5R Bartlein chambered by Mark Penrod when I built this Shehane. I posted what it will do at 200 and 500 yards before I went on the trip last September in this post.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3823220.msg36273273#msg36273273

I was pretty confident.
 
I am not aware of any 1000 yard shooters that are holding 2" at 1k consistently so I would not go striving for 4" at 2k. ;D
What load are you using?
Alex
 
No, it wasn't holding 4". The 1 mile target was more like 8" vertical. The load is 180 grain Berger hybrid pushed by 57.5 (caution! quite hot....) grains of H4831SC. The H4350 didn't do worth a darn in my gun.
 
If I could find a spot to shoot a 1k at groundhogs I would be happy.

Great shooting. Thats Ammo well spent.
 
Great Job! I'm still trying for that 1000 yard shot. We have a new town lined up for this year where we can get shots out to around 1500 yards so maybe I'll get lucky. Three more weeks.
 
zfastmalibu said:
How were conditions? It wouldnt take much mirage to blur out a dog at that range! Nice shooting.

I could only shoot from about an hour after sunup (when the dogs first start coming out) to about 9 or 10 AM before the mirage wiped them out. I was lucky and the wind blew very little for Wyoming until the 4th day I was there. It was literally calm for three days, especially during the early hours. Having those mirage free, low wind conditions is absolutely essential to any PD kill over 1000 yards.
 
Here's a little technique for those of you who might want to try for 1000 yards or more. This short instruction has resulted in my teaching two shooters in a row to get their 1000 yard dog the first time out.

I built a shooting bench with a 2" thick solid oak top mounted on three 1.5" diameter galvanized pipes. The gun should be capable of 1/2 MOA minimum, 1/4 MOA preferred, with a 2 oz trigger and 3" wide benchrest stock. I also have a 1.25" straight 32" barrel on the Shehane and as much lead as I could pack in the stock so the gun weighs about 19 lbs. Use good, solid benchrest bags. My front rest is a SEB NEO and the rear a Protektor Flat Top Dr. rear bag. A good scope with clear glass is essential, but high magnification is not. I was shooting at 12x. The dogs look more like fleas, but you can center on them with no problem. Low mag is the only way you are going to see your own shots hit.

Now, here is the key part, and with a 6BR it's not bad, but I did it with the 284 Shehane. Once the scope is zeroed on the target, DO NOT TOUCH THE BENCH OR GUN ANYWHERE EXCEPT THE TRIGGER. I position my shoulder an inch behind the stock to catch the gun, but I'm not touching anything. Don't bump the table legs. Don't rest your trigger hand on the table. The slightest wiggle of the bench will throw the shot off.

I dial in windage, but for elevation I hold over with a graduated reticle. an FFP (first focal plane) scope is essential for this if you want to change magnification for any reason. If you are ranged on just one active mound, dialing in elevation is fine, but I find it much more productive to have a cluster of active mounds in the scope field and know the holdover on each mound. That way you can move immediately to a dog that pops up on a neighboring mound. I was zeroed at a mile and knew that any mound I had to hold over on was better than a mile. The cluster I was on had mounds at 3 MOA, 5.5 MOA, 6.5 MOA and 7.5 MOA holdover. I could use the correct holdover mark for each mound and make a scorchingly close shot the first time on a dog that topped the mound.

When set up like that, it usually takes no more than 30 shots to connect once you have the mounds ranged. I have done that with my last three hits at 1296, 1644 and 1820 yards. It can take 20 or 30 shots before that to get the mounds all ranged, but I have usually ranged the mounds and made a hit by the time I go through 50 rounds.

It's not as tough as most would have you believe if you get set up properly and shoot in the right conditions.
 
Great Shooting James! I knew that if anyone could do - you could. Kinda compares to that woodchuck I killed at 180 yards with my 243 in Scio, Ohio.
 

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