Neighbors sister has a coyote problem.. They ate 5 of her cats.. ( I personally don't see the problem but that's another subject). She has several large barns I can hide in. She has the coyotes on camera coming in at 10:30 pm consistently. I'm thinking about putting up a "feeder" to sling dog food at a set time each evening.. Anyone of you guys done this? Suggestions?
Hunting coyotes
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Sure sounds like a fun time coming
Coyotefurharvester
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I have "barn cat distress" on my ecaller, between that and a bait set in the winter I have slowed the cat losses at my brothers. The sister-in-law was shocked the first time I showed her one, shot 4 there last winter. She keeps telling me about an opossum, I have not seen it. Would like to get a thermal sight, I think that would help alot(I need good moonlight for shooting).
The OP mentions this..."I'm thinking about putting up a "feeder" to sling dog food at a set time each evening". I would pay to see a video of the cats being slung
wedgy
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Get one of these $15 Hong Kong freight motion sensors and it will tell you when they are on your bait pile. Scatter some dog chow or similar so they linger picking it up piece by piece, they will carry big pieces off and not give a shot opportunity. You can use more than one transmitter as they are on the same frequency and I extended the internal antennas(solder on a longer wire) so the range is much improved. Cover the red blinking light with electrical tape so it doesn't spook them, you can add an on/off switch to the transmitter to save the 9 volt battery life. If you haven't shot at night it can be difficult to see the crosshairs, some dim solar lights can illuminate enough for a shot but they are spooky. A very dim illuminated reticle is great but cheap ones are way too bright and will blind you. Try out your setup before going hot because after you shoot at them they will still come back after the chow but they are very fidgety. Suppressed from the barn would be ideal, get set up, take a nap then wait for the buzzer to go off. Put a trail cam or other video device at ground zero as it makes for great shot clips ! Even a .22 will work just fine.
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harbor freight driveway sensor bought today!!
Dog food will be bought tomorrow. Going to scout the place towards end of week. May place a want ad for a kitten.. ( Just kidding) or am I? 17 HMR will be rifle of choice. May be able to put up some lights or they may already be in place. I’ll quarantine in the barn.. sooooo excited
Dog food will be bought tomorrow. Going to scout the place towards end of week. May place a want ad for a kitten.. ( Just kidding) or am I? 17 HMR will be rifle of choice. May be able to put up some lights or they may already be in place. I’ll quarantine in the barn.. sooooo excited
17hmr?
I hope that is an attempt at humor.
I hope that is an attempt at humor.
Wow - would I love to have one of my farmer friends call me and ask for this kind of help. Go for it.
PS: I did shoot a yote several years ago that was stalking a farmer's cat, it was merely a chance encounter while I was hunting ground hogs. The farmer had just cut the corn and removed it and birds were all over the field. The cat was sitting at the edge of the field watching the birds probably waiting to pounce on one. I saw the yote crawling towards the cat and when it got about 10 yards from the cat it stood up ready to pounce on the cat. The yote gave me a perfect broadside shot and I nailed him with my Rem 700, 223. His coat was a mess, full of menage. The cat lived to hunt birds another day.
PS: I did shoot a yote several years ago that was stalking a farmer's cat, it was merely a chance encounter while I was hunting ground hogs. The farmer had just cut the corn and removed it and birds were all over the field. The cat was sitting at the edge of the field watching the birds probably waiting to pounce on one. I saw the yote crawling towards the cat and when it got about 10 yards from the cat it stood up ready to pounce on the cat. The yote gave me a perfect broadside shot and I nailed him with my Rem 700, 223. His coat was a mess, full of menage. The cat lived to hunt birds another day.
You don’t think that will have enough energy at 75 or maybe 100 yds?
Not enough energy or not a big enough hole I would not trust it
I don't think a person should use a 17hmr for a coyote. Not enough energy...not enough knock down power. Far, far too great a chance at wounding the animal.
"Could' it work?...sure, if you have excellent shot placement and a little bit of luck. But I wouldn't. I could see a 17hmr not breaking a rib (or deflecting the bullet) if shot in the chest.
There's not readily available info for energy at 50 yards...so I'll use muzzle energy:
17hmr Muzzle energy: 245 ft-lbs
223 Muzzle energy: 1330 ft-lbs.
223 is almost 5 1/2 times more.
SSL
Gold $$ Contributor
Had a similar situation about 30 years ago. My neighbor had some chicken chicks he was keeping under a heat lamp. Raccoons and foxes seemed to take turns slipping into the chicken coop at night and raiding the brood. Luckily, there was a nice oak with broad, comfortable limbs to sit on for a stand. Since the critters were used to the glow of the red heater light, I set up a couple of shop lights with red lenses to provide a nice glow around the area and spent some time sitting in the tree with a semi-auto 12 gauge loaded with BB shot. Fast enough to use to get several quick shots before the varmints skedaddled. Got three raccoons, a fox and a couple opossums over a period of several nights. Those loads tore intruders of that size up pretty well. Should work real well on coyotes too, out to maybe 40 yards.
no, it does not.
A lucky shot or several shots with one of those will be required. I use a 17-223 for coyotes, only because my fur buyer was constantly complaining about holes from a 223. I have not lost a coyote yet with the 17, but I have shot a few more than once. If a 25gr at 4000fps is marginal, what is a 17hmr?
How about a 300 blackout with subs? I see the problem as almost all subs are like ice picks and don’t expand.
wedgy
Gold $$ Contributor
You need to use pre fractured/frangible bullets, AKA bullets designed for subsonic use. Lehigh Defense is a leader, I think Cutting Edge produces sum good subs as well. All of the Lehigh .308" 194's I have recovered looked just like the photo, don't shoot a deer
shoulder because they will expand before they penetratehttps://www.lehighdefense.com/all/308-maximum-expansion-194gr-subsonic-bullet
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