How to ship ammo? Gun parts? Alternative Methods?

[danny]

Any legal owner of a firearm can ship it to a FFL for repair, customization and receive it back to their doorstep. USPS will not ship handguns to my knowledge. What irks me are those who will not ship a bonafide C&R firearm to a C&R license holder.

USPS will ship handguns, but you have to be an FFL.

Danny

 

[danny]

I talked to the UPS and Fedex stores in my area and they are refusing to ship ammo or gun parts. UPS will ship a firearm FFL to FFL only, from the local UPS hub, but not any type of gun related parts. My local UPS is considering ANY live ammo as hazardous/no ship without the full meal deal hazmat training and license. No triggers, barrels, stocks, brass or bullets either. Even BB's are on the no ship list! Fedex is just an unapologetic flat NO to everything, even with a call tag.

How is everyone shipping this stuff? Yes, I could fib about what is in the box, but I don't need trouble in my life. Are there other shippers that are willing to do this that anyone knows about? The funny thing is that UPS and Fedex have both delivered this type of stuff to my house in the VERY recent past.

Does anyone know if any DOT rules have changed on any of this for 2021?

I heard that UPS is being or has been sold, is this a result of new owner rules, or is it just an anti-gun type decision of my local UPS and Fedex locations? I do know that they do not have to ship anything they don't want to, even if it is perfectly legal to do so. I also read up on what is legal to ship by ground (ORM-D) as far as small arms munitions goes.

Frustrating, as I have some factory ammo I wanted to sell to help fund a new item, and now seems the best time to do that. For the time being, I am just going to list locally.

Anyone else running into this issue?

Firearms parts are not controled items and are able to be shipped by them. They don't need to know that there are gun parts in the shipment. "Parts" do not include serialized receivers, which are by themselves, considered a firearm. UPS, Fed Ex and USPS are legally allowed to ship firearms (long guns), from a nonlicensee to a licensee, and also do it (just not at "store" locations). The problem is, you are dealing with someone that is telling you what they THINK is their regulations, not what is actually their regulations. Go there prepared beforehand with their regulations on firearms shipping and have them read it.

Danny

 

[FNSafari]

Firearms parts are not controled items and are able to be shipped by them. They don't need to know that there are gun parts in the shipment. "Parts" do not include serialized receivers, which are by themselves, considered a firearm. UPS, Fed Ex and USPS are legally allowed to ship firearms (long guns), from a nonlicensee to a licensee, and also do it (just not at "store" locations). The problem is, you are dealing with someone that is telling you what they THINK is their regulations, not what is actually their regulations. Go there prepared beforehand with their regulations on firearms shipping and have them read it.

Danny

UPS and FedEx have to get hauling rights from the department of transportation or they can't engage in interstate hauling. With that in mind the should HAVE TO follow other federal laws...like those governing the shipment of firearms. Granting them a license to haul interstate and then letting them thumb their noses to legal commerce should be forbidden.

 

[jelenko]

Firearms parts are not controled items and are able to be shipped by them. They don't need to know that there are gun parts in the shipment. "Parts" do not include serialized receivers, which are by themselves, considered a firearm. UPS, Fed Ex and USPS are legally allowed to ship firearms (long guns), from a nonlicensee to a licensee, and also do it (just not at "store" locations). The problem is, you are dealing with someone that is telling you what they THINK is their regulations, not what is actually their regulations. Go there prepared beforehand with their regulations on firearms shipping and have them read it.

Danny

As an example [although, in this case, the USPS] - I took a packed up rifle to the local post office to ship to an FFL. The postmaster said - Nup, on FFL's can ship firearms. Since I had just looked up the Postal Regs before going to the post office, I tried to explain what the regs said. He was intransient. I asked him to show me in the regs where it says on FFL's can ship rifles. He went away for a few minutes - came back, aplogized and helped secure the package and shipped it.

 

[FNSafari]

As an example [although, in this case, the USPS] - I took a packed up rifle to the local post office to ship to an FFL. The postmaster said - Nup, on FFL's can ship firearms. Since I had just looked up the Postal Regs before going to the post office, I tried to explain what the regs said. He was intransient. I asked him to show me in the regs where it says on FFL's can ship rifles. He went away for a few minutes - came back, aplogized and helped secure the package and shipped it.

I had that exact experience and outcome 3 years ago. But, he insisted that the firearm must be broken down. By chance it was so I just sucked it up, told him so with telling him he was wrong again and shipped the ite.