How To Get On Paper at 1,000 Yards - Help Please

[Rob01]

I took it as he had nothing between those to walk it out. Maybe he should clarify and that is why I asked again.

 

[rkittine]

The 1,000 yard range only has target positions at 600 and 1000. The 100 yard range is in a different area. The scope is already sighted for 100 yards with 0 MOA bases, so I am putting it on new rings and bases giving me 30 MOA and I would think I should be able to hit the berm then and see the puffs.

Thanks for all the help and input. Now I just need to go and do it. Jim Borden sent me the new rail, which I received yesterday and the new rings should be here Tuesday.

Bob

 

[Link]

I am no expert, however if your scope has been off the rifle I would think it has to be sighted in again at 100 yd to eliminate or compensate for changes. Then dial in 30 moa. for 1000.?
Link

 

[ranger3]

I agree with Link, no way will you get there by adjustiing based on shots in the berm. Been There done that, it won't work.

 

[dkhunt14]

Our back bank is big and over 50 feet. Unless it's wet it is easy to see impacts. I told him all he has to do is set gun up in rest and look through the bore. Put the bottom of the bore on top the big numbers on the bank and turn the crosshair down to the target. It will be very close done this way. He said he can't see through the bore good enough. There is almost always somebody there that would help him and look for him. Matt

 

[Link]

Thanks guys, I also realized that I am putting a scope BACK on this rifle that is already sighted at 100 yards and the only difference is High Rings as compared to Extra High for the barrel clearance. So I would think I would be somewhere on the berm by just putting in 32 total MOA on the new set up.

I have levels for the scope and action.

Bob

My question is / who thinks this scope is going to be zero at 100 after this change ? Then doesn't he mention burris sig rings of plus or minus ?

Link

 

[Bart B.]

Weaver Model T scopes have some of the best repeatable adjustments.

Does it matter their optics resolve only 1/15th MOA instead of 1/25th MOA like expensive scopes?

 

[dkhunt14]

My question is / who thinks this scope is going to be zero at 100 after this change ? Then doesn't he mention burris sig rings of plus or minus ?

Link

At Williamsport it doesn't matter. You put the bottom of bore on top of your number board and dial crosshair to target bull. Guys put new scopes on all the time and bore sight for the match while setting up. That has never failed annd gets you really close so you can see your impacts its on birds. Matt

 

[rkittine]

Thanks again.

I am really new at this, but figured if the scope adjustments are already zeroed at 100 yards (this is a NF 12x42 Benchrest Scope) on a 0 MOA base, that with the 20 MOA new Borden Rail, Burris Signature ZEE Rings with 10/-10 inserts in the front ring and -10/+10 inserts in the rear ring (5" Spacing), that I can dial in the extra 2 MOA or hold over as it is the reticle with the 2 MOA hash marks.

In any case, when I usually shoot there, there are guys around that know a lot more about this than I do.

Bob

 

[dkhunt14]

Thanks again.

I am really new at this, but figured if the scope adjustments are already zeroed at 100 yards (this is a NF 12x42 Benchrest Scope) on a 0 MOA base, that with the 20 MOA new Borden Rail, Burris Signature ZEE Rings with 10/-10 inserts in the front ring and -10/+10 inserts in the rear ring (5" Spacing), that I can dial in the extra 2 MOA or hold over as it is the reticle with the 2 MOA hash marks.

In any case, when I usually shoot there, there are guys around that know a lot more about this than I do.

Bob

There can be discrepancy because neither will probably work out to true 20 MOA. You can put a base on one rifle and it works out and put that same base on another and it will be off some. I wouldnt worry becuase usually somebodynnis there to help. With the look through more method it will be close. Also the impact area is so big you can be off quite a few minutes and still see impacts. You may need a spotter behind you though, if it is far off. Matt

 

[Eric Leonard]

I use the 100 yard smallbore NRA targets to bore sight at 100 yards and can 9 times out of 10 hit the 8 inch black on the first shot by looking through the bore with the rifle on my Farley rest,,on the second shot a dial the reticle to the bullet hole the with your dope I would dial in 32 MOA and send one at 1,000 and bet it would be within 2-3 feet then fine tune,,

using JBM the other day I hit an 15 inch plate at 1330 yards on the 2nd shot with my AICS stocked Tac 30 243 with 105 VLD-H at 3200 fps prone off a bipod and rear bag,,dialed in 41.5 moa elevation and was level but about 2 feet right,,2nd and 3rd shots were on the plate,,

 

[Bart B.]

There can be discrepancy because neither will probably work out to true 20 MOA. You can put a base on one rifle and it works out and put that same base on another and it will be off some.

As the angle between the base top and bottom contact points to receiver ring and bridge is the same all the time, it will have the same angle relative to another rifle's receiver ring and bridge. However, the receiver ring and bridge axis may not be perfectly aligned with the bore axis across two rifles same make and model; this is a separate issue.

20 MOA rails taper 0.0058177...." per inch of rail length to be exact. That's for exactly 20 MOA. Good luck finding all of them exactly that.

 

[243Mendoza]

At Williamsport it doesn't matter. You put the bottom of bore on top of your number board and dial crosshair to target bull. Guys put new scopes on all the time and bore sight for the match while setting up. That has never failed annd gets you really close so you can see your impacts its on birds. Matt

That works at Williamsport because of its peculiar relationship between the target and number board setup but it may not work at other ranges.

 

[dkhunt14]

That works at Williamsport because of its peculiar relationship between the target and number board setup but it may not work at other ranges.

He is going to Williamsport to Shoot. He mentioned it in earlier posts. Matt

 

[jim_k]

What's the problem? Come up 32 minutes, and go shoot the thing at 1,000 yards. Make sure your windage is spot on, and wait for a day without crosswind. The black on an F-class target is 6 minutes in diameter, so you're sure to be on the target board somewhere, unless the wind got you. Let's say the first sighter misses, then aim at the lower left corner of the target board. Go around the corners of the target board until something puts a hole in the target, then start making the usual adjustments. Rarely, I've had to go around the target aiming at the middle vertically, or the middle horizontally. Get a good rest, pull straight back, and keep your focus on the crosshairs until the rifle settles after recoil. You'll be fine.

 

[Joe Salt]

If you can see a hit anywhere around the target, just hold your point of aim and click to the impact and back to point of aim. Real easy.

Joe Salt

 

[rkittine]

Joe, I will check the match schedule and get out there on a non-match weekend and do some testing. Thanks for your help with my 6mmBR.

Bob

 

[Joe Salt]

Bob make sure you call Larry Plants to make sure it's alright to shoot! We have had people who do not know the rules up there shooting while Larry was out cutting wood NOT GOOD.

Joe Salt