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I believe that 10% of the people in the general population are “programmed” to screw things up for the other 90%. Very fortunate that roughly only .1% of the members of this from might fall in that 10%.

Believe the FORUM BOSS does an excellent job by providing “adult supervision” and appropriate action as needed.
 
This was Patton243's response to my notice that his Silver Membership was refunded in full and his account would be banned permanently:

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Folks -- this is the kind of stuff I have to deal with:

"... Die of Cancer too while you're at it."
You are a better man than I would have been, for instance I would have made his real name public for all the forum members to see and know who this guy is, so he can no longer use sites like these to sell things.

Lee
 
This was Patton243's response to my notice that his Silver Membership was refunded in full and his account would be banned permanently:

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Folks -- this is the kind of stuff I have to deal with:

"... Die of Cancer too while you're at it."
That is totally ridiculous and unacceptable I’m sorry you even have to put up with stuff like that not to mention on the holiday I think you’re doing a great job
 
You work hard, FORUM BOSS, no doubt about it, and you showed some compassion by refunding his membership. You lead by example, as any good leader does. Good job!

Occasionally we see those who cannot make a point without being insulting, and when called out for it, they attack with more insults. What I see in that behavior is someone abused as a child, perhaps physically, but definitely psychologically or both, and you know that they didn't ask for that kind of treatment. After all they were a child, they couldn't have.

You seem to recognise that, and despite your limited time you do what is good for the forum in a way that is respectable.

I admire that!
 
As a point of interest, I just took a look at my "Ignore" list to see if he was there. I don't tolerate that type of behavior to me or any other forum member. Appears he wasn't there, don't know if it's because he's been scrubbed from the forum. As a side note, I counted the number on my Ignore list and it sits at thirty. If this offends you, please feel free to add me to yours:rolleyes:;):rolleyes:;)
 
As a point of interest, I just took a look at my "Ignore" list to see if he was there. I don't tolerate that type of behavior to me or any other forum member. Appears he wasn't there, don't know if it's because he's been scrubbed from the forum. As a side note, I counted the number on my Ignore list and it sits at thirty. If this offends you, please feel free to add me to yours:rolleyes:;):rolleyes:;)
Interesting,
30 members seems like a lot, nevertheless here’s a question.
If you ignore a member are they notified or aware this is happening?
Just curious
 
Interesting,
30 members seems like a lot, nevertheless here’s a question.
If you ignore a member are they notified or aware this is happening?
Just curious


No.

Unfortunately all "Ignore" means is you don't see their posts.

The person who has been harassing you / being a jerk can see yours, and keep insulting / attacking you.... yer just unaware of / kept from seeing it.

Kinda why I don't use it. If someone if gonna harass and insult me, I'd rather be able to defend myself.
 
Ok thanks, now I know.
I once ignored a member for a short period of time then felt they definitely had significant contributions to the forum.
So it must’ve just been me getting my panties in a knot.
Now I just try to keep on keepin on.
 
Ok thanks, now I know.
I once ignored a member for a short period of time then felt they definitely had significant contributions to the forum.
So it must’ve just been me getting my panties in a knot.
Now I just try to keep on keepin on.


I use it on FB to end the harassment.

I go back a day later or so and unblock them. Most ignorant behavior is short lived. Give them a "time out" and then everything goes back to normal
 
No.

Unfortunately all "Ignore" means is you don't see their posts.

The person who has been harassing you / being a jerk can see yours, and keep insulting / attacking you.... yer just unaware of / kept from seeing it.

Kinda why I don't use it. If someone if gonna harass and insult me, I'd rather be able to defend myself.
Sticks and stones.......................I just don't feel the need to read someone's insults, to me or others. There have been times when there is a good, informative thread going on this forum and somebody gets their undies in a twist and the whole thing runs off the track. I'll just stop reading it and if someone gets really ugly, oh well. Probably didn't miss much after that. Difference of opinion can be a disaster.
 
In this day and age of professional keyboard warriors I support one warning noting zero tolerance going forward with 3-7 day temporary ban. If a combative/hostile/unappreciative response follows Nuke the account.

I would make it clear at membership benefits sign up that a refund is not an option for combative/hostile actions.

I'm not speaking blindly as I have over 15 years of moderating experience and have had to deal with some high level crooks that were simply members and some forum sponsors. Some of them minor felons and some were 6 figure level professional crooks.

Money (classifieds/selling goods/services), attention, or simply the personal entertainment of trolling of harassing people are typically their reason(s) for existing. Life is too short to tolerate online behavior that is not acceptable in face to face situations or is of criminal intent.
 
What a Maroon .... Funny ; People like that will "talk" their trash from behind a keyboard , but the last one to say it to your face . Guess they wouldn't like my 10 1/2D on their throat . Your running a great organization here , Boss . Keep on , keepin on . It's a better site without that clown , anyway .
 
Good job Boss! Have noticed a trend lately of rude comments by a few members, rather than simple, civil discourse. Too many "pissing matches" started in threads. Glad to see the line drawn.
 
I want to add that we are going to get tougher starting right now.

The folks who live to argue and insult will be kicked out of here. And the smart-aleck trolls who waste admin time will be shown the door.

Today, I am banning another two members for being hostile and trolling other members' threads.

Bottom line is this -- to "police" a thread and then issue warnings or a temporary ban can easily take 30 minutes per incident.

We now have 48,000 members. If just half of 1% (0.5%) of those members cause problems, that can consume 120 man-hours of admin time per year. That is three 40-hour weeks. Time I DO NOT have.

And to those wise-guys who want to challenge our policies, consider this --with 48,000 members, any one individual member represents just .00002 of the collective (i.e. 0.002%). It is far better for me to just ban those trouble-makers rather than waste even five minutes attempting to caution them, modify their behavior, or listen to their self-serving, made-up excuses.

And I'm losing virtually nothing by booting a bad apple. Lost ad revenue from having one fewer set of eyeballs? Hey you can do the math -- one member is just .002% of the total (two-thousandths of one percent).
 
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I want to add that we are going to get tougher starting right now.

The folks who live to argue and insult will be kicked out of here. And the smart-aleck trolls who waste admin time will be shown the door.

Today, I am banning another two members for being hostile and trolling other members' threads.

Bottom line is this -- to "police" a thread and then issue warnings or a temporary ban can easily take 30 minutes per incident.

We now have 48,000 members. If just half of 1% (0.5%) of those members cause problems, that can consume 120 man-hours of admin time per year. That is three 40-hour weeks. Time I DO NOT have.

And to those wise-guys who want to challenge our policies, consider this --with 48,000 members, any one individual member represents just .00002 of the collective (i.e. 0.002%). It is far better for me to just ban that member rather than waste even five minutes attempting to caution them, or modify their behavior, or listen to their self-serving, made-up excuses.

And I'm losing virtually nothing by booting a bad apple. Lost ad revenue from having one fewer set of eyeballs? Hey you can do the math -- one member is just .002% of the total (two-thousandths of one percent).
THERE YOU GO!!!! they are not worth the time!! this is hands down the BEST (look at the members list, world record holders, smith's, great shooters and great people that are trying to shooto_O) site for shooters and especially SERIOUS shooters (no y'all, not me:D). thanks for this site, from all of us:)
 

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