I don't agree with all of Honkers points but I don't believe he deserved the absolutely hostile responses from a lot of you. He certainly has a right to his opinion without being attacked.
As someone who had a whole thread deleted for dropping the "F" bomb I'm not real sensitive to the language issue but I try to remember that my granddaughter occasionally reads this stuff so I usually don't use any words I wouldn't say in front of her.
I've been a member here for quite a long time and the nature of the site has changed a lot over the years. When it was young it had pretty much a technical interchange focus. As it has grown it's become more of a social network. Many of the folks who are true experts in the field and provided valuable advice and guidance don't come around anymore. A couple of them have told me it's become too difficult to find any substance under all the fluff and there's always a self-proclaimed expert that wants to argue.
One thing that I find extremely irritating is members hijacking a thread about a topic of general interest and it gets turned into either a pissing contest about something unrelated or a bunch of good ole boys tellin' yarns. I think Paul would have plenty of funding for the site if users were charged $1 every time they used the phrase "a quarter inch all day long".
Regarding the title of a new post I think Honker makes a good point. In the main sections of the site if there a new post that's just an expletive I'm sure not going to look at it. In the classifieds when someone uses the title "4sail" and nothing else, I've got better things to do.
There is still valuable information here but it's getting harder and harder to find. It also used to be if you read something here you could take it to the bank. Any more I see a lot of wildly inaccurate information posted and never questioned. If it's not a safety issue I just ignore it. They'll eventually figure it out for themselves... or not.
And I'll readily admit there are posts where the spelling and grammar is so terrible I have no idea what they're trying to say. I don't spend much time on them. And these are folks from the good old USA not Iceland or Norway. Are people aware that if you use Firefox it does the spellcheck for you as you type? By the way, reticule is a womans purse.
One more thing that I find really irritating is people who read the original post, skip over three pages of responses and then give an incorrect answer to the original question. Lovely.
Thank you to this gentleman and a few others who tried to rein in the very hostile replies.
I still think that some simple courtesy and some focus on shooting would benefit the site.
Some have said I have only posted a few times. On other shooting sites, I have posted hundreds of times. This site is fairly new for me.
I have visited one or two shooting-related sites that have gone so far out of bounds that members even dare to post photos of half nude women as a kind of "joke." This is what happens when the focus shifts away from shooting questions and goes over to "entertainment above anything" and jokes that are even placed before shooting issues.
Some of the attacks on me seem to be from what we could call the "bib overalls group."
There's some pretty rough stuff in this thread. Some fellows struggle to be coarse as they possibly can, but to just
barely steer clear of the limit where they will be cut off. Given what the moderator seems to permit, they are on pretty safe ground.
I very much appreciate a number of folks who have recognized I was just discussing some ideas in a polite way. Even when they don't agree, they at least recognize that I was just putting up some ideas.
For those who are just average guys like me,
do you really want the "heroes' on your site to be the "bib-overalls group?" With the rusty pick-up trucks and a couple of mongrel dogs riding around in the back?
Because I have seen my share of that.
I want to thank those who tried to at least discuss my ideas without going into personal attacks.
I hope to continue to visit the site. Let's hope the focus remains on guns and shooting questions, and not domination by "joke experts" and a carnival of personal vituperation.
Don't you get a feeling that at least a few of the more "over the wall" posters may be logging on late at night, after half a dozen good snorts under their belt?
Best to all---
Thanks--
Honker