How Do You Know if a Vortex Golden Eagle is "HD"?

[Darwin]

It sure doesn't take a rocket scientist or do a lot of research to get on the web site and click on GE. and it comes up HD right after the name. it has been the same since they came out. Why are the dark at higher power? 60 power and a 52 mm objective.....They rock solid, sure beats a bright one that won't hold point of aim and cost twice as much...... jim

Which reticle do you like in the GE?

 

[JEFFPPC]

Which reticle do you like in the GE?

Darwin I will tackle that as I have had 4 GEs. First I ever looked through one was up at Ridgway VBR it had the ECR and was not mounted. My thought was the dot is too small and I will never use the holdoffs. I bought the cross hair. Like it but found a 300 yard target called the Peeking Ghog that is used in several matches I attend has small 300 yd 10 ring was pretty much covered by the xhair and was not a good fit. I bought an ECR, loved it as it floats inside the small ten ring allowing for small precise hold offs. Have since bought another ECR. So I am using 3 GE currently, 2 ECR and 1 xhair. My preference after using both is the ECR.I had a second GE with straight xhair but sold it and bought a 10x50x60 send dual focus Sightron. I like the Sightron best. But, for the money the GE is unbeatable . I have had no issues with either brand. They hold POI and repeat.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Did you read what he wrote? He said he looked and researched. Hell if I know. If you applied your logic to every post on this forum there would not be a forum. Damn, I’ve asked questions before. I’ve probably asked here several times because it’s quicker than calling the manufacturer or scrolling through the internet for hours just to get questionable information instead of getting good information from the tons of great people here. I clicked on it because I too was curious! Should asking questions here always be the last resort? I do agree there’s plenty wrong with society but I guess I don’t see how it relates in this case. This forum is my escape from the society you’re talking about. Let’s keep this society a happy one. Or, scroll past things........

JD ,how are doing today we'll I hope. Couple of answers for you. Your first sentence referring to he looked everywhere. I have never seen a GE ad that did not say HD. So, logical response if your still curious, as he was, go to the source. Did not happen until some one did the work for him. Sentence number two, it would trim a lot out. Your pretty much on target.Your sentence of how does it relate to our society. Come on man, it's all about instant gratification with out doing any work Speaking of working, every business owner I am aquainted with says they can not hire anyone.I will soon be 74 and have been approached twice this month by owners who asked me if I would work for them. No one wants to work. I will try, honest, to take your advice and scroll past some. Sounds like good advice, thank you. Now if Jimmy Mac would calm down and come to one of our shoots with his hot 30 BR barrel I think he just might enjoy himself.

 

[46490]

Speaking on the subject of HD glass - for those that know and looked through scopes with SHOTT (sp) glass is there a noticeable difference between the Shott glass and Japanize made glass. Just wanting to get the best glass for bench rest shooting - my eyes are old (67).

Thanks for the honest opinions.

 

[johara1]

Speaking on the subject of HD glass - for those that know and looked through scopes with SHOTT (sp) glass is there a noticeable difference between the Shott glass and Japanize made glass. Just wanting to get the best glass for bench rest shooting - my eyes are old (67).

Thanks for the honest opinions.

67 isn't old wait 10 or 11 years and see. More to a BR scope than what looks good, it had better hold point of impact....... jim

 

[johara1]

Which reticle do you like in the GE?

The floating dot ........ jim

 

[Killick]

It sure doesn't take a rocket scientist or do a lot of research to get on the web site and click on GE. and it comes up HD right after the name. it has been the same since they came out. Why are the dark at higher power? 60 power and a 52 mm objective.....They rock solid, sure beats a bright one that won't hold point of aim and cost twice as much...... jim

JD ,how are doing today we'll I hope. Couple of answers for you. Your first sentence referring to he looked everywhere. I have never seen a GE ad that did not say HD. So, logical response if your still curious, as he was, go to the source. Did not happen until some one did the work for him. Sentence number two, it would trim a lot out. Your pretty much on target.Your sentence of how does it relate to our society. Come on man, it's all about instant gratification with out doing any work Speaking of working, every business owner I am aquainted with says they can not hire anyone.I will soon be 74 and have been approached twice this month by owners who asked me if I would work for them. No one wants to work. I will try, honest, to take your advice and scroll past some. Sounds like good advice, thank you. Now if Jimmy Mac would calm down and come to one of our shoots with his hot 30 BR barrel I think he just might enjoy himself.

My issue was that I had no idea that it was HD from the get go so if someone was selling one and there was no indication on the box or the scope that the glass was indeed HD then there was no assurance that it actually was. You are correct that I could have made a call and settled it officially but maybe someone on this fine website already had the answer, which they did. Did that good samaritan suffer a loss for his kind effort? I would hope not. And I did give props for it.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Did you maybe learn how easy it would have been to do the obvious, make a phone call. I hope. I was not trying to flame you . It is just frustrating to see the many asked questions that are either poorly asked, or the OP could have found out the answer with a tiny effort. So off that, I think if you end up with a Golden Eagle you will be satisfied. Is it the absolute most technically advanced glass? No but it is adequate most of the time. More importantly it holds aim and repeats. Good luck.

 

[johara1]

My issue was that I had no idea that it was HD from the get go so if someone was selling one and there was no indication on the box or the scope that the glass was indeed HD then there was no assurance that it actually was. You are correct that I could have made a call and settled it officially but maybe someone on this fine website already had the answer, which they did. Did that good samaritan suffer a loss for his kind effort? I would hope not. And I did give props for it.

What do you mean? did you get their site ? do you see the HD after Golden Eagle? it seems you never did even look but wanted someone else to......jim

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

My issue was that I had no idea that it was HD from the get go so if someone was selling one and there was no indication on the box or the scope that the glass was indeed HD then there was no assurance that it actually was. You are correct that I could have made a call and settled it officially but maybe someone on this fine website already had the answer, which they did. Did that good samaritan suffer a loss for his kind effort? I would hope not. And I did give props for it.

The way I read your OP is that you were wondering if the GE had always had HD (whatever that is) glass, or were there GEs without HD glass at the beginning, and then later on Vortex added HD glass to the GE line.

I think that's a valid question, which so far, has not been answered. If that was not the intent of your question, then I just read it wrong.

At any rate, ED glass (Extra low Dispersion) glass first appeared in riflescopes about 14 years ago when Deon introduced ED glass to their March scopes. Later on, other companies followed and also started using ED glass in their scope. Now, if your scope's literature does not mention ED glass or the words (low or extra low, dispersion) then it's not in there. ED glass is a differentiator and marketing will always latch on to a differentiator, or at the very least try to keep up with the industry.

I went to the Vortex website to look around and I wonder what this is:

• 35mm ASR (Aperature Stop Ring)

What is an "aperature" ? Perhaps they meant to say "aperture"?

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

JD ,how are doing today we'll I hope. Couple of answers for you. Your first sentence referring to he looked everywhere. I have never seen a GE ad that did not say HD. So, logical response if your still curious, as he was, go to the source. Did not happen until some one did the work for him. Sentence number two, it would trim a lot out. Your pretty much on target.Your sentence of how does it relate to our society. Come on man, it's all about instant gratification with out doing any work Speaking of working, every business owner I am aquainted with says they can not hire anyone.I will soon be 74 and have been approached twice this month by owners who asked me if I would work for them. No one wants to work. I will try, honest, to take your advice and scroll past some. Sounds like good advice, thank you. Now if Jimmy Mac would calm down and come to one of our shoots with his hot 30 BR barrel I think he just might enjoy himself.

Well, I have seen hundreds of questions on this forum that to me seem to be foolish, redundant, and sometimes even idiotic. Negative comments accomplish nothing and raise the ire of many of our members.

Remember there is a rule here against flaming any member. The overwhelming majority of those who have responded to the OP have been been supportive and oppose your position.

One of the great things about shooting enthusiast is they are, for the most part, gentlemen. A gentleman would not disparage another for asking an honest question.

There is one Forum Sherriff in authority here. That job belongs to the Boss.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Nick, if that "flaming, it must be for those with thin skin. I understand, do not try to inform, never be critical, give everyone a participation trophy. So to be sure I do not offend anyone I will cease to offer any opinions, advise, sharing of long learned wisdom on this forum. I hope you are happy now. I will report on matches only. Have a nice summer.
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[Old Navy]

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Good one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Old Navy]

I have a GE so I decided to read this topic. I have no idea what HD stands for and really don't care. I really enjoyed reading this thread though.

 

[6MMsteve]

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[Killick]

The way I read your OP is that you were wondering if the GE had always had HD (whatever that is) glass, or were there GEs without HD glass at the beginning, and then later on Vortex added HD glass to the GE line.

I think that's a valid question, which so far, has not been answered. If that was not the intent of your question, then I just read it wrong.

At any rate, ED glass (Extra low Dispersion) glass first appeared in riflescopes about 14 years ago when Deon introduced ED glass to their March scopes. Later on, other companies followed and also started using ED glass in their scope. Now, if your scope's literature does not mention ED glass or the words (low or extra low, dispersion) then it's not in there. ED glass is a differentiator and marketing will always latch on to a differentiator, or at the very least try to keep up with the industry.

I went to the Vortex website to look around and I wonder what this is:

• 35mm ASR (Aperature Stop Ring)

What is an "aperature" ? Perhaps they meant to say "aperture"?

TT, I went back as far as I could for reviews on YouTube and found Vortex’s first preview of the GE. They mention “HD” as High Density apochromatic lenses yet their current “Optical Features” heading on their website explains the “HD Lens Elements” as ...”Premium extra-low dispersion glass delivers the ultimate in resolution and color fidelity, resulting in high-definition images”.
So...bottom line: yes, the HD moniker was there from the get go.

 

[Killick]

And here is the source of my confusion. A post from 2018 which I remember reading and only remembering the quoted potion of the OP. Later posts in the thread debunk that quote but as I was not vested in buying one at the time I do not recall it’s debunk-ment.

Vortex Golden Eagle new and old models?

I saw the following on another forum: Are we talking about the new HD Golden Eagle? If so, I'd highly recommend that one. I have the previous Golden Eagle and shoot FTR with it quite often. The old GE was a good buy but now that they've upgraded to HD glass, it'll probably be even better. I...

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