Highly Accurate Powder Scale
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nmkid
Gold $$ Contributor
On a lark I ordered the Hornady battery powered trickler. Right off hand, I don't remember but it was very inexpensive. Granted it's not an auto trickler but, it works just fine and it has 3 speeds. Works fine for my needs.
Actually you are. Instead of responding here you should have taken it to PM as requested.
So if it's not about the post count might I suggest deleting to clean the thread back up.
At that time this will also disappear.
I shoot long range BR so powder charge is critical. I have a Sartorius Entris 128 and Adam’s Auto throw and Auto tricker with all the Area 419 upgrades. It lets me relatively quickly load highly precise rounds.
When I bought my setup last year I would have been happy with the A&F FXI 120 with the Auto throw and trickler but I could not find one.
My Sartorius weighs to .001 grains, which is needlessly precise even for LR BR. I usually ignore the last digit. However I can definitely say that no one on this thread has been correct about the weight of a Varget kernel. They actually weigh between about .018 and .024.
If I were buying again I would get the whole A&D FXI 120 with Auto throw, trickled, and upgrades for $1450ish from Area 419
When I bought my setup last year I would have been happy with the A&F FXI 120 with the Auto throw and trickler but I could not find one.
My Sartorius weighs to .001 grains, which is needlessly precise even for LR BR. I usually ignore the last digit. However I can definitely say that no one on this thread has been correct about the weight of a Varget kernel. They actually weigh between about .018 and .024.
If I were buying again I would get the whole A&D FXI 120 with Auto throw, trickled, and upgrades for $1450ish from Area 419
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The Dandy is a great unit. I was lucky to find a nearly new unit on eBay for $75.00.
Danny
Standard or Automatic?
I use the Sartorius CP64 and a Dandy Trickler. Both work exceptionally well together. They are not tied digitally, but it doesn't take much time at all to drop the last of the powder.
There is a thread here where they are helping you build your own auto trickler for as little as $60. I am contemplating using that for the future and would use my Dandy, but don't know.
The Area 419 trickler alone for the AND is $229 and $269 for the Sartorius. The kits with drop and trickler are $399 (AND) and $439 (Sartorius) respectfully. Not a huge impact when you consider what we spend on our sport.
I picked my first Sartorius up at a lab auction. I generally attend these autions to buy and sell but I had been wanting one analytical lab scale for a while and not willing to spend $500 plus. This came without the shield but that was OK as it had recently been serviced and certified, I then found another Sartorius on Ebay from a medical equipment seller and got it for $220 plus S&H. Sold the other unit to a member here and am very happy with mine.
My unit if it were still available and I had purchased it brand new would have cost me close to $3000. Very happy with its performance. I also like the sliding doors so I don't have to remove glass to use. May add the auto trickler at some point in the future but for now I am happy.
Two things that I have added to my scale that I think have made a huge difference is first an APU (CyberPower CP850PFCLCD) to correct the voltage going to the unit and to provide protection from surges, brown outs and other line issues. The second I have a used lab anti static mat under the scale to ensure that I don't build up any static charges. It has a ground on it and uses a monitor that lets me know if a static charge is building (SCS 724). This thing is great. Picked the monitor and mat up at that lab auction.
There is a thread here where they are helping you build your own auto trickler for as little as $60. I am contemplating using that for the future and would use my Dandy, but don't know.
The Area 419 trickler alone for the AND is $229 and $269 for the Sartorius. The kits with drop and trickler are $399 (AND) and $439 (Sartorius) respectfully. Not a huge impact when you consider what we spend on our sport.
I picked my first Sartorius up at a lab auction. I generally attend these autions to buy and sell but I had been wanting one analytical lab scale for a while and not willing to spend $500 plus. This came without the shield but that was OK as it had recently been serviced and certified, I then found another Sartorius on Ebay from a medical equipment seller and got it for $220 plus S&H. Sold the other unit to a member here and am very happy with mine.
My unit if it were still available and I had purchased it brand new would have cost me close to $3000. Very happy with its performance. I also like the sliding doors so I don't have to remove glass to use. May add the auto trickler at some point in the future but for now I am happy.
Two things that I have added to my scale that I think have made a huge difference is first an APU (CyberPower CP850PFCLCD) to correct the voltage going to the unit and to provide protection from surges, brown outs and other line issues. The second I have a used lab anti static mat under the scale to ensure that I don't build up any static charges. It has a ground on it and uses a monitor that lets me know if a static charge is building (SCS 724). This thing is great. Picked the monitor and mat up at that lab auction.
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germanlongbow
Scott M Bainbridge
I have a Sartorius Entris 64 measures down to 0.001 grains. It does make a difference in reducing group velocity spreads, can't say that the accuracy in my 100 yards groups coincides. I have a great deal of time to kill so measuring loads down to 1 kernel isn't a big deal for me. I have been able with last three rifles to narrow extreme velocity spread down to 5-7 fps which is a far more consistent than measuring off my lyman powder dispenser or dillon scale. It's a bit pricey but worth it in my opinion.
Mark W
Gold $$ Contributor
I think my tuned scale from Scott was absolutely the best upgrade to my reloading set up that I’ve ever made.
Scott’s communication defiencies have been well documented and even acknowledged by him on the open forum and in text messages with me. He may communicate well with some, but’s it’s the exception and not the rule. I’m not bashing or knocking him in any way. Just stating facts.
One thing that Scott told me a while back, is that he didn’t believe that everyone had the mechanical aptitude to effectively use a beam scale. At the time I didn’t necessarily agree with his statement. Now that I have a few thousand more rounds under my belt using his tuned scale, I have become more familiar with the nuances of using the scale. Quite honestly I now agree that for some people an electronic scale may be best although a quality beam scale suits my needs perfectly.
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divingin
Gold $$ Contributor
Ditto on a Highland Adam 123 model.
As an aside, I find it curious that multiple brands of similar-in-function scientific balances all have the same model number. Is that an unwritten agreement in the scale industry or something?
For Sartorius, the number represents the max gram weight of the scale. It may be the same for AND.
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