What’s the story with hazmat fees. I understand they must be paid when a company ships something that qualifies for one but what about an individual? If I want to ship a pound of powder, am I allowed to do it? Which leads me to my next question, what is the penalty for not paying a hazmat fee when something requires one? How the heck would UPS know what I was shipping? With the powder and primer shortages I would like to be able to trade items with people.
Hazmat Fee/No Fee
- Thread starter leclairk
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You can not ship hazmat through ups or FedEx without a specific hazmat contract with them. There are criminal penalties for shipping hazmat items without it being shipped properly.
PatMiles
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Pay attention to this ^^^^ and heed Falfans advice.
joshb
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What happens if you ship it and your package ends up on a plane and goes boom?
The minimum civil penalty for knowingly shipping hazardous goods without proper licensing is many times your number. The maximum is well over 50k iirc. If somehow your shipment Injures someone better crack a beer open, you’re about to get your life wrecked
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- The maximum civil penalty for a violation of hazardous materials transportation law (49 U.S.C. 5123(a)(1)) increased from $79,976 to $81,993 per day, per violation.
- For a violation that results in death, serious illness, severe injury, or substantial property damage, the civil penalty rose from $186,610 to $191,316.
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Glad I asked
People get away with it, but the risk reward is just not close imo
Given the topic your screen name is perfect @DangerRanger
Special handling and segregation at various shipping and holding points along the route.
Termite I
Gold $$ Contributor
Like Fotheringill wrote I think they handle it a little more careful. They probably don't throw it from the back of their truck on to your porch. Now ammo and bullets are a different story. I ordered some CCI minimags from Brownells and came up one round shy after I put them back into the plastic containers that they came in. My latest purchase of bullets from Wiedeners was comical. When the driver handed me the box one bullet fell out onto the floor of his truck. The look on his face was Priceless!
Dusty Stevens
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They dont pay per shipment. They pay for a refresher course once a year that teaches them how to label, pack etc. this is why they can offer free hazmat or charge $25. They can do whatever they want when they have the endorsement because the recipient doesnt know any better
Murray Brook
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We can look at it anyway we want, it's nothing more than a scam. JMO
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HAZMAT is not a fee paid to the Government. HAZMAT requirements pertain to all hazardous materials throughout business spectrum. Consider items such as bleach, paint & thinners, some metals (beryllium), acids, gunpowder, and others. This places packaging requirements on the manufacturer/packager to ensure safe transport and storage throughout the transportation environment. The Federal Specifications call for types of cardboard boxes (ply & thickness), waterproof linings, plastic/metal/wood containers depending on the HAZMAT to be shipped. There is a reason bleach bottles look the way they do. The Specifications are aimed mainly at bulk shipping (think hardware store packaging of 6 cans of thinner per cardboard box). This also requires special markings and labels to be applied. The manufacturer must order and stock these labels or stencils. There is also paperwork to be completed and attached outside and inside the packaging. These costs are passed on to the customer by the selling merchant however they feel the need. Maybe just in the price of the product or more noticeably by HAZMAT fee. Some vendors may even identify charge no HAZMAT sale while adding a small bump in price for the items. Since they can spread their cost for labels and forms across the larger sales base. And YES I have shipped a LOT of various hazardous materials all across the USA and the world during 30 years working for Lockheed Martin Missile Systems in Florida.
Last ever package slam down by (choose which company) driver.
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