H4895 photos

[wvuredneck09]

So I'm trying to duplicate an old load I'm fully aware to be safe and verify everything. I have verified that the weighted charge is a safe load for the cartridge and believe it is H4895 but don't have any to visually compare, does anyone have a high quality photo so I can verify before sourcing some and working up a load myself?

 

[Clancy]

I can send one when I get home, but be advised…. I’ve seen some H4895 that was nearly black and some that was the green hue we are used to.

 

[Jeff Porter]

Looks like shorter cut Varget.

 

[243winxb]

visually compare

Not possible is my guess.
Look for more then the 1 photo here. Look for different colors & size.

https://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/sample_detail.php?powder_id=73

 

[Kittitas George]

Use a current manual, don't trust photos.

 

[762willdo]

Good luck finding any….

 

[243winxb]

IMR4895 at Hodgdon. Only $64.99 a pound, plus hasmat, tax & shipping.

No H any where now.

 

[6.5 forever]

Pictures of powder are absolutely irrelevant and meaningless. Sorry

 

[whatsupdoc]

 

[jelenko]

If you've worked up a safe load, does it matter what powder it is?

 

[358WCF]

Was the original H4895 the surplus military stuff, the Scottish stuff, or the ADI stuff? There may have also been interim "newly made" DuPont stuff between the surplus & Scottish as well. The original surplus H4895 was made by DuPont, IMR 4895 was also made by DuPont & having the same identifying # was very probably the same powder at one time. IMR is made in Canada by General Dynamics these days supposedly to IMRs recipe... maybe. All others will likely have slightly different characteristics as well as lot to lot variance.

Do as you like, but it seems to me that if you start low & work up with the H4895 you have, or hope to find, it would be a whole lot better idea than just substituting a newly made powder for an unknown older powder by weight & hoping for the same results.

 

[Dimner]

This is what I have, was too stupid to convert to antiAmerican metric but length was 1.64 mm
And diameter was 0.75mm
Hope it helps but please don’t take it as gospel
Wayne

This is what every lot of H4895 I have used looks like. I also love the smell.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

After our truly beloved POTUS... Just DON'T! Seriously, be very careful. I know you're "aware" and all that but visual id of powders is just not a good way, not even close. I hate powder shortages! I always worry that someone is gonna do something like this and it go wrong, just for some reason that amounts to nothing if it does.

 

[M-61]

Just DON'T

Very sound advice. Never even attempt it.

 

[old codger]

Trying to match powder visually is a sure fire way to a problem. Do not use powder unless you are absolutely sure of the source/type.

 

[Kittitas George]

If we knew what cartridge you were loading, someone maybe would share a recipe from an appropriate manual, then back it down and sneak up on it. I don't know of any other 'safe' way of loading. Using photos may help you get rid of the rifle and a few fingers. Good Luck !!

 

[Lone Hunter]

Just DON'T

Very sound advice. Never even attempt it. M-61

Using photos may help you get rid of the rifle and a few fingers. Good Luck !!
Kittitas George

^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^
You should really listen to these guys!!!!!!!

 

[wvuredneck09]

Thanks all, don't plan to shoot from the hip here but trying to figure out what I've got in my hands, I know its a guessing game and all loads will be worked up as they should, just trying to see if its worth trying to find some powder that I don't have. Grain size is to large to be 8208xbr or benchmark so looking through my manual one of the other stick powders listed is H4895 as I can eliminate all of the ball powders for sure. Just to be clear I'm not trying to ID powder on hand for the purpose of reloading, just trying to re-create an already safe load that came from a documented source and has shot well for me. Well aware that even batch to batch things can vary but there is no point in even trying to hunt down a powder I don't have if its not the right one, I hope that makes more sense as I'm truly being safe (I like my fingers).

 

[M-61]

Just to be clear I'm not trying to ID powder on hand for the purpose of reloading

Sure you are.
And you are going to do it regardless of all the warnings.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

So you pulled down a cartridge, from a "well documented source", but you don't have any information about the type/brand of powder. If this is a factory round(well documented) ammo manufacturers often blend powders( not reproducible). If this was reloaded ammo, I guess it's NOT as well documented, as most reloaders do record all components as well as pertinent measurements.