H4895 photos

[ebb]

If you think the powder is H4895 and work up a load using NEW H4895 and new components and it is shown to be safe in the load book how can you go wrong. Never once did the OP mention using the old powder, he was only looking at it to get and idea what powder was used in the old load. If he loads a new batch and it is a charge weight that is in a manual as safe how in the world has he done one thing wrong? A whole lot of "the sky is falling" advise was given out here.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

What's the cartridge and bullet? Someone here may have some data.

 

[Lone Hunter]

If you think the powder is H4895 and work up a load using NEW H4895 and new components and it is shown to be safe in the load book how can you go wrong. Never once did the OP mention using the old powder, he was only looking at it to get and idea what powder was used in the old load. If he loads a new batch and it is a charge weight that is in a manual as safe how in the world has he done one thing wrong? A whole lot of "the sky is falling" advise was given out here.

OP’s Original Post
So I'm trying to duplicate an old load I'm fully aware to be safe and verify everything. I have verified that the weighted charge is a safe load for the cartridge and believe it is H4895 but don't have any to visually compare, does anyone have a high quality photo so I can verify before sourcing some and working up a load myself?

The way I read it is he “THINKS” it is H4895 but “Doesn’t “ know therefore he wants a picture of the powder so he can make sure it is H4895 even though he doesn’t know if that is the powder in the pull downs. I don’t know about you but I DO NOT load powders that I am not 100% sure of what they are. A picture is not going to tell you what is the reloads or can of powder. I use H4895 in several different calibers but unless I know it came from the can of H4895 not a picture, no way I would use it. I have gone to finding other powders since H4895 is nowhere to be found. My reading comprehension may not be correct but that is what I get from his post. I still stand by my comment that if not 100% sure don’t do it.

 

[K22]

H 4985 disappearance - My take: Eziel Murphy's 15th Law:

"If you find a powder that works great in all 10 of your 223 Rem bolt rifles it will become a victim of supply chain disappearance."

 

[ebb]

If he decides that the powder he pulled down is H4895, he says he will source some H4895 and load it. He never says he is going to use the powder he pulled down, he is going to source new powder and load. People get suggestions on the net and a the LGS all the time on what powder to use, as long as he looks it up and decides on a safe charge weight where is the foul? The sky is falling

 

[Lone Hunter]

Not going to argue with you as you seem to want to do with people in all your responses. My question to you is how is he going to know what the powder is? What if it’s another powder that looks like H4895 but not even close? He believes it’s H4895 but don’t have any to visually compare. So, to me, that says he doesn’t know what it is. The sky will be falling if it’s not…

 

[M-61]

I fail to see the problem?… now if that isn’t the case, there’s no load data for that powder for his cartridge in a loading manual then there is a definite problem!…

Didn’t you just state the problem you said you fail to see?

I’m done with this word game. If you don’t know exactly what you’re loading or doing or relying on a visual, then never do it.
The best of luck. Seriously.

 

[Webster]

So I'm trying to duplicate an old load I'm fully aware to be safe and verify everything. I have verified that the weighted charge is a safe load for the cartridge and believe it is H4895 but don't have any to visually compare, does anyone have a high quality photo so I can verify before sourcing some and working up a load myself?

You cannot identify a powder accurately by color and shape. Possible but dangerous. You have no idea what the chemical composition is. Be careful.

 

[ebb]

No argument, I am just saying picking a powder from the net, match results or from the guy at the gun counter is done every day. If he wants to look at the picture and say thats what this is, and makes a load with known new H4895 and uses a reloading manual what could go wrong? People successfully load cartridges using h4895 all the time.

 

[Old Navy]

Absolutely no substitute for keeping good records.

 

[CJ6]

I know you're talking about H-4895, But just a quick glance at VV powders will show that they have several powders with the same granular size but different burn rates. Something to think about when trying to visually identify powders.

 

[wvuredneck09]

Thanks all for the help, didn't intend to start arguments but rest assured it is an old pulled round I will source new powder and work up a safe load if/when I find H4895. I'm aware that record keeping is crucial but I am human and can't tell you every recipe I've worked up in the last 24 years of reloading.

 

[Wild Bill IV]

Thanks all for the help, didn't intend to start arguments but rest assured it is an old pulled round I will source new powder and work up a safe load if/when I find H4895. I'm aware that record keeping is crucial but I am human and can't tell you every recipe I've worked up in the last 24 years of reloading.

You made the right choice!!!
Keep those fingers and teeth!!
You'll need them later in life!!
Nobody wants to eat a bolt!!!
In my 40 plus years of precision reloading, when it comes to a safety issue much like this, I will quote from idiot Joe Biden:
"DON'T"

 

[243winxb]

"DON'T"

Photos of people that did.

 

[DeerHunter82]

That powder is good for something though. Lawn fertilizer.