gun transfer

[roly]

Is it true that if you do a face to face gun transfer ffl is not required?thanks,roly

 

[pikespeakgoat]

It depends.......

Here in Colorado, not true.

 

[jonbearman]

Not in new York either. Call the county clerks office or a gunshop and they should be able to set you straight. I just noticed you live in California so make absolutely sure you can do that as long as the buyer is a California resident.

 

[tonedaddy]

What if you live in Ohio and you walk in a gun store in Indiana and buy a handgun? How does that work?

 

[spclark]

Is it true that if you do a face to face gun transfer ffl is not required?

https://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons

Pretty much covers all the applicable situations on the Federal level. States may have different, more restrictive laws as has been stated in earlier replies.

 

[roly]

Thanks,roly

 

[jwink]

In PA, a ffl is not needed on the sale of a long gun as long as both people are from PA. Handguns must use a ffl. I personally still insist on a ffl on long guns, (there is a chance that you're buying a stolen gun and registering it should catch it). And if the gun was ever to be linked to a crime, there are records of who sold it to you and keep you in the clear.

 

[XTR]

Here in TN, face to face no FFL requires

 

[dragman]

In PA, a ffl is not needed on the sale of a long gun as long as both people are from PA. Handguns must use a ffl. I personally still insist on a ffl on long guns, (there is a chance that you're buying a stolen gun and registering it should catch it). And if the gun was ever to be linked to a crime, there are records of who sold it to you and keep you in the clear.

You can't transfer a long gun it PA. unless you sale it to the ffl first.
it's also not registered it's only ever listed on a 4473 so it wouldn't catch it being stolen if it was.

 

[joshb]

Used to be OK in Delaware, but that changed last year. Now it's all ffl for transfer of all guns.

 

[jwink]

I stand corrected, dragman is correct about the long guns. They are only registered at sale from a dealer in PA, not when purchasing from private parties.

 

[1993z28]

What do's shall not be infringed mean?

 

[wapiti25]

you need to go thru an FFL for all transfers in CA.

 

[bobinpa]

They are only registered at sale from a dealer in PA

Technically they are NOT registered, ever. That's what the NRA and similar organizations keep fighting..... registration.

 

[sundance]

I don't think their record keeping is very good.I got a call from a police department in another town a few days ago.They said a gun I bought new in Rifle,Colorado in 2009 was used in a homicide in another Colorado town recently.I have never been to Rifle,Colorado.They also had my first and last names reversed.Wierd.

 

[jwink]

Technically, they are not registered I agree, but then why, when I purchased my 700 Remington, they required the serial number on the paperwork. They may say they aren't registered but I am very certain that they (the government) know I own it, which in my eyes looks a lot like registration.

 

[Catfur]

What do's shall not be infringed mean?

It means the US Supreme Court doesn't give a rat's rear end about your actual, enumerated rights.

 

[jds holler]

Our liberal Democrat majority senate and house here in Oregon just passed a bill that will require all face to face sales to go through a FFL. Just has to be signed in by our new liberal Democrat governor. We all plan on abiding by it. It is the law after all, and we know that laws are made to be followed. Finally something to keep guns out of the hands of felons. : jd

 

[justpassinthru]

Our liberal Democrat majority senate and house here in Oregon just passed a bill that will require all face to face sales to go through a FFL. Just has to be signed in by our new liberal Democrat governor. We all plan on abiding by it. It is the law after all, and we know that laws are made to be followed. Finally something to keep guns out of the hands of felons. : jd

Makes me feel safer all the way out here in NC :

 

[dragman]

Technically, they are not registered I agree, but then why, when I purchased my 700 Remington, they required the serial number on the paperwork. They may say they aren't registered but I am very certain that they (the government) know I own it, which in my eyes looks a lot like registration.

The government doesn't know unless the firearm is reported stolen (by serial number) or found used in a crime (where they have it)
The 4473 stays with dealer and the only thing they know when they run the PICS check is your buying a firearm since with long guns there's no state registration to send in they don't know what you have.
They have to do what's called birth of firearm.
They go to the manufacturer with model and serial
Manufacturer reports what wholesaler
Wholesaler tells what gun shop
Gun shop faxes record of sale

Now they know the original purchaser, but like I said on long gun they have to have the info first IE its reported stolen by owner or picked up in crime.