Gun safe recommendations

[savagedasher]

Consumer Reports.........Forget it.......they are so politically biased it's laughable. My cousin gets the rag and bought their top ranking products for his last three appliance purchases, and every one needed call backs. Sad thing is if he had kept the old appliances from the '70's (all worked well, just thought he would avoid breakdowns) he probably would have avoided service calls. News break- manufacturers lie.
( I think I just wasted another few minutes of my life)

Myself I feel a gun safe is false security .
Security start way before a safe .
Fire is most likely to get your gun then theft.
The best thing is security that slow them from getting in you house . That is where I would start first . If your that paranoid .
You can install a high fence and hire a security guard put bars on the windows and doors . With that said I worry about fire .
Larry

 

[Mark204]

I think fire board has non combustible paper on it . Larry

It actually has nothing to do with the paper. I was a carpenter in an earlier life and drywall was my claim to fame, lol. If I remember correctly their two types of "fire rated" drywall, class "C" and class "X", the only difference was, (by code in St. Louis Co.), that "X" could replace "C", but "C" could not replace "X". Confusing yes, but what it means is that "X" could be used on ceilings and walls where "C" could only be used on walls.

Most fire rock is 5/8" where regular rock is a 1/2" but I do believe you can get fire rock in 1/2" now, but it may not have the same rating. Generally 5/8 fire rock has a burn time of 1/2 hour per layer, so in a garage we would install a layer of 5/8's on any part of the garage the butted up to living space in the house and a layer would be installed inside the house in the same location. That should give you a 1 hour burn rating.

What separates fire rock from regular drywall is how its made, fire rock is made with a higher moisture content than regular drywall. If a fire starts in your garage the fire will suck the moisture out of the drywall before it will spread to your house, but fire rock will burn after its sucked dry. That's why a 5/8" sheet is heavier than a 1/2" sheet, more water in the board. A 4'x12' sheet of 1/2" weighs in at around 105lbs where as a 4'x12' sheet of 5/8's weighs in at about 128lbs, a big difference in weight.

Kind of a lengthy answer, but that's how I remember it.

P.S. When drywall is first pressed out, the sheet starts at 4'x800', its then cut into 8s, 10s, 12s, 14s and 16s.


Mark

 

[savagedasher]

It actually has nothing to do with the paper. I was a carpenter in an earlier life and drywall was my claim to fame, lol. If I remember correctly their two types of "fire rated" drywall, class "C" and class "X", the only difference was, (by code in St. Louis Co.), that "X" could replace "C", but "C" could not replace "X". Confusing yes, but what it means is that "X" could be used on ceilings and walls where "C" could only be used on walls.

Most fire rock is 5/8" where regular rock is a 1/2" but I do believe you can get fire rock in 1/2" now, but it may not have the same rating. Generally 5/8 fire rock has a burn time of 1/2 hour per layer, so in a garage we would install a layer of 5/8's on any part of the garage the butted up to living space in the house and a layer would be installed inside the house in the same location. That should give you a 1 hour burn rating.

What separates fire rock from regular drywall is how its made, fire rock is made with a higher moisture content than regular drywall. If a fire starts in your garage the fire will suck the moisture out of the drywall before it will spread to your house, but fire rock will burn after its sucked dry. That's why a 5/8" sheet is heavier than a 1/2" sheet, more water in the board. A 4'x12' sheet of 1/2" weighs in at around 105lbs where as a 4'x12' sheet of 5/8's weighs in at about 128lbs, a big difference in weight.

Kind of a lengthy answer, but that's how I remember it.


Mark

Mark
Fire rated sheet rock now has fiberglass reinforcement in it Larry

 

[Mark204]

Mark
Fire rated sheet rock now has fiberglass reinforcement in it Larry

Thanks Larry, its been awhile, things always change.

Mark

 

[moondog]

 

[savagedasher]

Thanks Larry, its been awhile, things always change.

Mark

I can’t tell you how many of bags of mineral wool with cement in it I have sprayed on steel beams I hated ever one . Thanks for-the response . Larry

 

[LHSmith]

Mark
Fire rated sheet rock now has fiberglass reinforcement in it Larry

Larry, Chinese made drywall is loaded with toxic chemicals. Further proof they're trying to exterminate us and our dogs. Wonder how that affects the fire rating?

 

[savagedasher]

Larry, Chinese made drywall is loaded with toxic chemicals. Wonder how that affects the fire rating?

Ask on here
I know many of home that that had all their wireing replace because of it .
Larry

 

[LHSmith]

Wonder how much value was lost when the guns went smashing together when the safe hit the floor? Not the way I would do it. Can you say "hernia"?

 

[people]

Wonder how much value was lost when the guns went smashing together when the safe hit the floor? Not the way I would do it. Can you say "hernia"?

Depends on how much wood a person has inside.

I did not watch the video but on every safe I have ever moved the bottom would come off very easy. That is why they say bolt it down.

 

[JRS]

That is a joke.

 

[D Coots]

Zanotti Armour. Take down safe. Mark Zanotti is a shooter. Custom builds.

 

[group therapy]

If a carbide blade doesn't do it, an exothermic torch will. That's why your safe is monitored by your alarm system.

BTW, any safe I'd buy these days would need to have an EMP resistant lock.

electro magnetic pulse? if so, why?

 

[DRNewcomb]

electro magnetic pulse? if so, why?

Because "Little Rocket Man" could shut down most everything we depend on as a society with a single high-altitude detonation over Kansas. It doesn't have to be large and it doesn't have to survive reentry. It just has to emit a lot of gamma rays. In addition to frying the electrical grid, just about everything we use (e.g. cars, computers, cell phones, etc.) relies on transistors and integrated circuits, which would be mostly taken out by the E1 pulse from a high-altitude nuclear detonation. Some electronic locks have been tested for this and some safes have a backup mechanical lock.