Oxygen tanks more so, just ask the 2 firefighters I knew that lost their legs from the shrapnel when a gas set exploded.
Gun powder
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DogBuster
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Coyotefurharvester
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Light bulbs, mining, parental rights, free speech and foreign interest money. The short list.
Is your Fire Marshall elected or appointed?
City or county board?
Your house get inspected for home owners insurance?
Could insurance companies charge a premium for ammo/gunpowder storage?
Like a large diesel tank out behind the house? Propane tank inspections and located too close to the house?
Expect local governments to apply regulations based on local mood.
Municipal, county (parish) may see this as a cash cow, charging for inspections to protect the children.
Fire Marshalls already inspect businesses, whether selling food or smokeless powder.
The cost is usually built into business licenses.
The ATF gives them the leverage to enact ordinances and charge for any additional cost.
I doubt any household would be exempt from a safety inspection mandated by local government, heavens forbid someone living under HOA. If a burden on manpower expect an inspection FEE to be assessed along with your property taxes. My local government is proposing a 100% inspection of septic systems. $100 every 3 years.
State or local governments have been a thorn for shooters, ranges, buyers and sellers of evil gun related stuff. Hate the ATF, but inconsistent application at local levels also hurts us.
Expect to PAY for local ammo tasters hired to comply.
Another aspect is privacy at the local level. Ammo and reloading supplies, just like expensive guns, gold and silver might not be something you want to be "public knowledge". What safeguards will be implemented to control access to storage of valuable asset data?
City or county board?
Your house get inspected for home owners insurance?
Could insurance companies charge a premium for ammo/gunpowder storage?
Like a large diesel tank out behind the house? Propane tank inspections and located too close to the house?
Expect local governments to apply regulations based on local mood.
Municipal, county (parish) may see this as a cash cow, charging for inspections to protect the children.
Fire Marshalls already inspect businesses, whether selling food or smokeless powder.
The cost is usually built into business licenses.
The ATF gives them the leverage to enact ordinances and charge for any additional cost.
I doubt any household would be exempt from a safety inspection mandated by local government, heavens forbid someone living under HOA. If a burden on manpower expect an inspection FEE to be assessed along with your property taxes. My local government is proposing a 100% inspection of septic systems. $100 every 3 years.
State or local governments have been a thorn for shooters, ranges, buyers and sellers of evil gun related stuff. Hate the ATF, but inconsistent application at local levels also hurts us.
Expect to PAY for local ammo tasters hired to comply.
Another aspect is privacy at the local level. Ammo and reloading supplies, just like expensive guns, gold and silver might not be something you want to be "public knowledge". What safeguards will be implemented to control access to storage of valuable asset data?
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Retired shooter
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When Brandon gets more concerned about all the 'Propellants ' left in Afghanistan then he can have an opinion of what is going to be controlled here in the USA.
Dont ever forget. 9 / 11
Dont ever forget. 9 / 11
Larry Koch
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Sure glad we dont use explosives. Haven seen a few Tesla car fires, they can be a bomb on wheels, with no quick way to extinguish. Looking forward to first large parking garage to go up in smokes.
They already have requirements for black powder.
“Since I gave up black powder, I don't have any explosive items, other than gasoline, which runs my vehicles”
Yeah and next thing is the dumb Azzezs will want a list of how much gas you have in the tanks and when you re planning to replace the vehicle with an electric POS !! Our liberal minded voting friends need to WAKE UP before we totally lose all our Freedoms !!
Yeah and next thing is the dumb Azzezs will want a list of how much gas you have in the tanks and when you re planning to replace the vehicle with an electric POS !! Our liberal minded voting friends need to WAKE UP before we totally lose all our Freedoms !!
Larry Koch
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Liquid gasoline doesn't burn, it has to be vaporized.
Retired shooter
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Plenty of vapor coming out of Washington DC.
Rank Amateur
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From the ATF website:
Smokeless powders designed for use in small arms ammunition are exempt from regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40 and the regulations in 27 CFR Part 555. Packaging that readily identifies the smokeless powder as being designed for use in small arms ammunition may help in determining whether it is entitled to the exemption. Smokeless powder designed for use other than in small arms ammunition, and explosive products such as squibs, fireworks, theatrical special effects, or other articles that may contain smokeless powders, are regulated and must be stored pursuant to the regulations at 27 CFR 555, Subpart K – Storage.
It should be noted that persons engaged in the business of importing or manufacturing smokeless powder designed for any use must have a Federal explosives license. Further, importers of smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition must also possess an ATF firearms importers license (Type 08 or 11); must register with ATF under the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act; and must submit (to ATF) and receive an approved ATF Form 6 – part I (5330.3A), Application and Permit for Importation of Firearms Ammunition and Implements of War.
Is smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition subject to the explosives storage requirements?
Smokeless powders designed for use in small arms ammunition are exempt from regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40 and the regulations in 27 CFR Part 555. Packaging that readily identifies the smokeless powder as being designed for use in small arms ammunition may help in determining whether it is entitled to the exemption. Smokeless powder designed for use other than in small arms ammunition, and explosive products such as squibs, fireworks, theatrical special effects, or other articles that may contain smokeless powders, are regulated and must be stored pursuant to the regulations at 27 CFR 555, Subpart K – Storage.
It should be noted that persons engaged in the business of importing or manufacturing smokeless powder designed for any use must have a Federal explosives license. Further, importers of smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition must also possess an ATF firearms importers license (Type 08 or 11); must register with ATF under the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act; and must submit (to ATF) and receive an approved ATF Form 6 – part I (5330.3A), Application and Permit for Importation of Firearms Ammunition and Implements of War.
KMart
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We can all argue over what an explosive is. In reality, it it is whatever the ATF or DOT interprets it as on a given day.
This is the last box of powder I received and how it is labeled.
Larry Koch
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With that said, I’m curious what vehicle batteries will be soon rated once the genie gets out of the bottle.
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