Gun confiscation in LA today.

[pirate ammo]

So now, with no provocation, you are accusing law enforcement officers of theft. AS a retired law enforcement officer, with 32 years service, I take this very personally.

Just as all gun owners are not "Gun Nuts," all law enforcement officers are not "thieves."

Both you and the person you quoted, have just given every cop on this forum a slap in the face. Shame on you both!!!!

thumbs up.

 

[tuttlefarm]

Girard Saenz was arrested for violating a California law prohibiting the manufacture, sale or distribution, importation or transportation of an assault weapon, according to the L.A. Times.

Authorities say Saenz was selling the guns outside of the limits of a federal license he has, the Times reported.


Saenz has been released on a $50,000 bond and has not been charged with a crime, Variety reported.

 

[Richard308]

So now, with no provocation, you are accusing law enforcement officers of theft. AS a retired law enforcement officer, with 32 years service, I take this very personally.

Just as all gun owners are not "Gun Nuts," all law enforcement officers are not "thieves."

Both you and the person you quoted, have just given every cop on this forum a slap in the face. Shame on you both!!!!

Sir,
I was in law enforcement for 35 years. I seen situations where firearms that were seized in arrests or held in evidence "disappear".
I am not saying that LE officers are all thieves, but some do have the tendency to help themselves on occasion. I've seen it done.
I know of people personally who have had their firearms taken, after the courts ordered them returned after the cases were disposed of.
1911's, Lugers, etc. Guns are tempting to some. Some just can't help themselves.

 

[Someoldguy]

Sir,
I was in law enforcement for 35 years. I seen situations where firearms that were seized in arrests or held in evidence "disappear".
I am not saying that LE officers are all thieves, but some do have the tendency to help themselves on occasion. I've seen it done.
I know of people personally who have had their firearms taken, after the courts ordered them returned after the cases were disposed of.
1911's, Lugers, etc. Guns are tempting to some. Some just can't help themselves.

If you witnessed it, you were complicit if you did not report it, no?

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

Sir,
I was in law enforcement for 35 years. I seen situations where firearms that were seized in arrests or held in evidence "disappear".
I am not saying that LE officers are all thieves, but some do have the tendency to help themselves on occasion. I've seen it done.
I know of people personally who have had their firearms taken, after the courts ordered them returned after the cases were disposed of.
1911's, Lugers, etc. Guns are tempting to some. Some just can't help themselves.

Yes, what you say is certainly true, in a small number of cases. Spouting out that some will disappear simply because it has happened before is just another case of cop bashing. Making statements like this lend no valuable comment to the original post and in my mind are offered as a smarta#sed, off the cuff remark.

We are talking about gun confiscation not corrupt cops.

By the way, did you actually witness these thefts you talk about of is it simply hearsay?

 

[pirate ammo]

Yes, what you say is certainly true, in a small number of cases. Spouting out that some will disappear simply because it has happened before is just another case of cop bashing. Making statements like this lend no valuable comment to the original post and in my mind are offered as a smarta#sed, off the cuff remark.

We are talking about gun confiscation not corrupt cops.

By the way, did you actually witness these thefts you talk about of is it simply hearsay?

Calm down Nick,some just cannot help it.

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

Calm down Nick,some just cannot help it.

You are of course right. Thanks for the support, by the way. It is much appreciated.
Nick

 

[Someoldguy]

You know, I see this a lot on several forums. I can understand why some people hold a dim view of LEOs, particularly those who had their rights violated. But let's be honest. Most of the time, when a civilian has an encounter with a LEO, it is because the civilian is doing something dangerous, illegal, stupid and likely as not all of the above.
So if you find your encounters with LEOs unpleasant, why don't you try acting like a law-abiding citizen for awhile, or at least be grown up enough to admit that the treatment/punishment you received was a direct result of the decisions you made and actions you took.

Sorry for going off topic. I shall surrender my soapbox now .

 

[carlsbad]

Going thru my divorce many years ago I had to turn my handguns in to the local sheriff here in San Diego County, just a couple of German made sig pistols and a ruger 22 bull barrel target pistol. My divorce drug on for way too long and I forgot about them. 2 1/2 years later I got a call from the sheriff asking if I was still interested in them and I said "of course, I'll be right in."

I got there and they explained to me that they are only allowed to hold them for 1 year and they were supposed to have destroyed them but "they were too nice to destroy" so they kept them for me.

--Jerry

 

[Richard308]

Sir,
I was in law enforcement for 35 years. I seen situations where firearms that were seized in arrests or held in evidence "disappear".
I am not saying that LE officers are all thieves, but some do have the tendency to help themselves on occasion. I've seen it done.
I know of people personally who have had their firearms taken, after the courts ordered them returned after the cases were disposed of.
1911's, Lugers, etc. Guns are tempting to some. Some just can't help themselves.

Yes, what you say is certainly true, in a small number of cases. Spouting out that some will disappear simply because it has happened before is just another case of cop bashing. Making statements like this lend no valuable comment to the original post and in my mind are offered as a smarta#sed, off the cuff remark.

We are talking about gun confiscation not corrupt cops.

By the way, did you actually witness these thefts you talk about of is it simply hearsay?[/QUONo

No, not hear say. I'm not going to air this on a forum. Just saying that it happened and it makes LE look bad for everyone in our area at the time. Embarrassing.
I am not trying to smear LE, just stating that it happened. My apology for getting anyone upset over this comment.

 

[J F Johannes]

Sir,
I was in law enforcement for 35 years. I seen situations where firearms that were seized in arrests or held in evidence "disappear".
I am not saying that LE officers are all thieves, but some do have the tendency to help themselves on occasion. I've seen it done.
I know of people personally who have had their firearms taken, after the courts ordered them returned after the cases were disposed of.
1911's, Lugers, etc. Guns are tempting to some. Some just can't help themselves.

Did you arrest them?

 

[300_whisper]

In the LA times it said for owning and distributing assualt weapons and 50 BMGs which are prohibited in the state of california. If its a state law, and thats their business, why was the ATF involved?

Sounds like this all started when some shook neighbor snitched on him.

Also, the number of guns and amount of ammo is irrelevent. Or maybe I am just dumb and didnt realize there was a limit to the amount of firearms any american is allowed to own.

 

[carlsbad]

Guys. Don't expect the reporter to get a story about guns correct.

 

[NorCalMikie]

Girard Saenz was arrested for violating a California law prohibiting the manufacture, sale or distribution, importation or transportation of an assault weapon, according to the L.A. Times.

Authorities say Saenz was selling the guns outside of the limits of a federal license he has, the Times reported.

Well duh??
That's good for starters. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And the Cops are the bad guys?

 

[riflewoman]

You are of course right. Thanks for the support, by the way. It is much appreciated.
Nick

Nick.

99% of cops are honest. But LAPD has a history of dishonest cops and a “blue wall of silence” that is well documented. Will some of these disappear? Perhaps not, but with the LAPD it wouldn’t be surprising.

 

[300_whisper]

Well duh??
That's good for starters. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And the Cops are the bad guys?

We don’t know any of the facts. The fact the guy is now free awaiting a court date shows he’s no threat to society. If he had machine guns and distributing to gangs he would be in jail till his trial.

The only things stupid right now is the news, our current gun laws, and snitching neighbors.

 

[Richard308]

You are of course right. Thanks for the support, by the way. It is much appreciated.
Nick

It was an inappropriate statement to make. Once again I apologize. It was out of line.

 

[Mark W]

Going thru my divorce many years ago I had to turn my handguns in to the local sheriff here in San Diego County, just a couple of German made sig pistols and a ruger 22 bull barrel target pistol. My divorce drug on for way too long and I forgot about them. 2 1/2 years later I got a call from the sheriff asking if I was still interested in them and I said "of course, I'll be right in."

I got there and they explained to me that they are only allowed to hold them for 1 year and they were supposed to have destroyed them but "they were too nice to destroy" so they kept them for me.

--Jerry

I’m glad that you got your guns back, but could you explain why the cops needed to hold your guns?

I’ve lost a few things in divorce and sold a few guns to raise cash back in the day. Never had to turn them in though.

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

It was an inappropriate statement to make. Once again I apologize. It was out of line.

Accepted, over and done with.

 

[theallcineyes]

Registration leads to confiscation, the Cartels and criminals don't give up their guns so why should anyone do the same. All packed up like scraps. no proper filing so they know who's got what.