I had a ground hog move into the field my garden is in. He took an 87gr Vmax in the neck about 30 minutes ago at about 75 yards out of my Marlin Dasher. It worked! That's the first ground hog I have seen around here in 30 plus years. The old Marlin got a coyote Saturday morning at 200 yards, that worked to. I have to say that the 87gr Vmax is a killing bullet. Barlow