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Gotta Love Powder Valley

So let me get this straight its a suggestion but they make you sign a agreement. If its illegal then why sign it?
 
why don't you take the time to Google the vortex optics dealer application. One of the general requirements is that you sign and abide by map pricing.I'm done trying to explain something that's written in stone
 
rpierce said:
why don't you take the time to Google the vortex optics map agreement. One of the general requirements is that you sign and abide by map pricing.I'm done trying to explain something that's written in stone

Sounds like your complaint should be with Vortex for allowing a distributor to break such an agreement
 
In very early 2013 I got into reloading at about the worse time you could. It was extremely hard to find any reloading supplies and even the reloading equipment was hard to find as everyone was panic buying. Powder Valley may be a great place to buy from but at that time they were out of stock with everything I wanted. They did take one order from me only to cancel it after about a week. I was able to purchase Varget powder and brass from one local "Mom and Pop" dealer, loading equipment from another and bullets from a third. The one thing I could not find was primers until I found them at Bruno's. These things were more expensive than from Powder Valley, Midwest,Third Generation etc but at least I was able to purchase them. I remember all the posts with people saying they would never order from Bruno's because they were charging too much. Well for guys like me that was good as that left supplies for the rest of us who were just getting into reloading or willing to pay those prices. The one local "Mom and Pop" retailer really worked hard at getting supplies for us reloaders. They apologized for the high prices they had to charge but they could not get supplies from their normal distributors and had to pay higher prices to find different products from other distributors who were taking advantage of the shortage situation. The local small dealers may not be able to match the prices of Powder Valley and others but they still contribute a lot to our reloading sport.
 
Tim Singleton said:
rpierce said:
why don't you take the time to Google the vortex optics map agreement. One of the general requirements is that you sign and abide by map pricing.I'm done trying to explain something that's written in stone

Sounds like your complaint should be with Vortex for allowing a distributor to break such an agreement

And there you have it.
 
Tim Singleton said:
rpierce said:
why don't you take the time to Google the vortex optics map agreement. One of the general requirements is that you sign and abide by map pricing.I'm done trying to explain something that's written in stone

Sounds like your complaint should be with Vortex for allowing a distributor to break such an agreement

That is precisely it!

Ryan, call them and bring to their attention a dealer that is selling below MAP instead of crying on the internet.

Listen, kid, the reason these are being sold below MAP is because we are getting out of the Vortex line. You jumping up and down isn't going to stop us from getting our money out of the products. So calm down and go back to chambering barrels before you snap a vein!
 
Shiraz,

Just remember buddy, no good deed goes unpunished......... ;)


Thank you for expanding your business, and giving the consumers another OPTION as to where they decide to spend their money.

Phil.
 
Shiraz, I just got a killer deal on a Kowa TSN-884 with a 25-60W eyepiece from bullets.com. The price was so good I decided to buy it when the price everywhere else was way too high. I guess you folks are getting out of the Kowa stuff too, and I benefitted from it. Thanks!
 
phil said:
Shiraz,

Just remember buddy, no good deed goes unpunished......... ;)

Phil.

LOL! Thanks. ;D

michaelnel said:
Shiraz, I just got a killer deal on a Kowa TSN-884 with a 25-60W eyepiece from bullets.com. The price was so good I decided to buy it when the price everywhere else was way too high. I guess you folks are getting out of the Kowa stuff too, and I benefitted from it. Thanks!

Thank you for the business. Yes, as good as Kowa spotting scopes are (that's all I use when I go to matches), they are difficult to sell them at MAP due to various factors. So, Kowa is also being discontinued. Get them while you can - great prices!
 
According to the subject box this post started about PVI and now we are talking about scopes which PVI doesn't sell!!!!!!! Am I disconnected?
 
snakepit said:
In very early 2013 I got into reloading at about the worse time you could. It was extremely hard to find any reloading supplies and even the reloading equipment was hard to find as everyone was panic buying. Powder Valley may be a great place to buy from but at that time they were out of stock with everything I wanted. They did take one order from me only to cancel it after about a week. I was able to purchase Varget powder and brass from one local "Mom and Pop" dealer, loading equipment from another and bullets from a third. The one thing I could not find was primers until I found them at Bruno's. These things were more expensive than from Powder Valley, Midwest,Third Generation etc but at least I was able to purchase them. I remember all the posts with people saying they would never order from Bruno's because they were charging too much. Well for guys like me that was good as that left supplies for the rest of us who were just getting into reloading or willing to pay those prices. The one local "Mom and Pop" retailer really worked hard at getting supplies for us reloaders. They apologized for the high prices they had to charge but they could not get supplies from their normal distributors and had to pay higher prices to find different products from other distributors who were taking advantage of the shortage situation. The local small dealers may not be able to match the prices of Power Valley and others but they still contribute a lot to our reloading sport.
Great point. I agree there are a lot of smaller places where this is true. But the big guys who compete directly with PV are not at this disadvantage.

One of the great things people respect so much about PV is over the past 2 years as they have inventory trickling in they haven't ran the price up to $240 for an 8 lb keg of LT it has stayed the same.
They are one of the few who haven't taken advantage
 
Shriaz how about you start carrying BAT action? Be nice to get them somewhere other than Brunos
 
.30 cal Kreiger barrels as well. 30" and longer.
 
jkohler said:
Shriaz how about you start carrying BAT action? Be nice to get them somewhere other than Brunos


THIS ^^^^^^^^^^ Is a GREAT Idea....... ;)

I just don`t understand the logistics and capitol needed to get it off the ground, but I`ll be watching with great anticipation for the reply from Shiraz.

Phil.
 
AND, just to try and get this back on track, I do appreciate the fact that Powder Valley had been able to provide the shooting community with product at reasonable prices throughout this debacle.

I will shop around for the best deal, as many of us do, and surprisingly some of the smaller / newer businesses (SP?) have better deals on certain items.

I also understand that smaller businesses have less capital and less buying power, and because of that their prices may be higher as a reflection of the price they pay from a vendor.

It`s easy to understand that the item is no longer to be carried by the vendor, so he is discounting it to get his initial investment back as well as get out from under the product.

As well as it is understandable to the other vendors issue with trying to move a product, at a predetermined set price, and seeing his customers go somewhere else to get a better deal.

Some days you`re the windshield some days you`re the bug.....

Phil.
 

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