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Glass bedded rings?

I read a post somewhere where the writer mentioned glass bedding the scope rings. Excuse my ignorance, but could someone elaborate on this subject for me, and is it a real benefit over simply lapping the ring set?
Mr. moderator, if this is in the wrong forum, please move it to the correct area.
Thanks in advance,
Lloyd
 
1shot, In reading the instructions that come with Ken Ferrell bases, he gives a method for bedding the base to the action if the base did not fit flush and square to the action. The determining of whether the rifle action and scope base needed bedding was arrived at by simply putting the very end screw into the base and tighten just snug. Check for clearance at the other end between the action and base. And then remove the screw and put it in the other end of the base and check for clearance. If either end of the base lifted up, then the base would require bedding to the action. I believe this may be what you are refering to. The reason for bedding this base to the action from what I have read is to relieve stress from the action once the base has been torqued. It is common belief with some that un-due stress applied to the action will cause inaccuracy and I do not disaggree with that theory. I have mounted 2 of Ken's one pc. bases onto 2 Savage rifles and checked per his instructions and found no reason to bed the base. But, with that being said I have mounted many one pc. and two pc. bases in the past before learning about this process and never checked at all. If there was a problem with accuracy because of the stress caused by the bases, of course I never knew about it. Bill
 
billmo,
I'm aware of bedding the bases. There is a Locktite product that I have used to create a "bed" so to speak so that there is equal pressure as the base is being torqued down. Removing the bases at a later time, is no problem, as they lift off normally, with the Locktite product since hardened and staying with the base. The post I'm reffering to, if I can locate it stated to bed the rings to the scope.
Hmmm,
Lloyd
 
The last time that I bedded rings, it was because they were taking forever to lap. It gave a perfect fit, and was easy. At the time I was afraid to use the scope, so I measured the diameter of the length of 1" cold rolled steel that I was using to lap, and finding the diameter very close to that of the scope, cleaned off the abrasive and gave it a couple of applications of neutral paste shoe polish,,Kiwi brand if I remember correctly)buffing after each application. I used Devcon Plastic Steel, the smallest kit, bought in a hardware store. The rings were Ruger, on a model 77 varmint rifle. I didn't bother doing the caps. I might consider doing them today. Rather than try to trim the hardened "squeeze out", I wiped it off immediately with a wet paper towel, and then dried to prevent rust. Before I started lapping, I had tightened the rings to the integral bases, and resolved not to remove them thereafter, so that I would not have to redo the job. I was pleased with the end result.

Sometimes, rings and/or the receiver are so far out that by the time that you lap to full contact there may be alignment issues or the faces of the caps may need to be filed to restore clamping clearance. In these cases, bedding may be a good option.

I think that it is a good Idea to keep an old scope around that has had the reticle centered by rolling the scope on V blocks and adjusting till the intersection of the cross hairs does not move as the scope is rolled. Using this as a tool,bore sighting),one can determine what sort of alignment problems exist before attempting lapping and or bedding of the rings. I don't use the Redfield style rings that have windage adjustment on the rear ring/base. It seems to me that the rear ring is too lightly attached to be held properly during lapping or bedding. About all that I do with these is to chamfer the parting line so they don't mark the scope.
 
Ahh,haaa,
Found it on another site! long-range.com
"It is just my opinion, but any rings should be lapped in; if they aren't you can put some unnecessary bending loads on the scope tube. Another approach is to glass bed the scope into the rings; this is a fairly common practice."
 
1shot, that is a new one for me man. I had never heard of that either. I guess if you run into a situation like Boyd was talking about it would be neccesary to bed it to be able to gain the ability to tighten the top caps. Bill
 
I do it fairly frequently when I can see that the scope doesn't line up properly in the rings. Lapping leaves quite a bit of slop in the setup sometimes and a good bedding job makes for an exact fit, and no ring marks.
 

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