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Getting a new air rifle

I have had several Daisy 853's (single pumps) and an 887 (pre-charged CO2) that I purchased from the CMP. They are incredibly accurate with good pellets - single hole 5-shot groups at 10 meters, slightly larger at 25 meters. For house sparrows they are more than adequately powered. I use them to train new shooters and have had outstanding success. They have no recoil, and leave no excuses in the accuracy department. The single pump versions have the virtue of an unending supply of air. The CO2 version has the virtue of not needing to be pumped up. I was getting 200+ shots per cylinder and I could get the cylinder filled up for under $2.00 at the local paint ball shop. Check them out here: https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/sporter-air-rifles/
 
Ive had Winchester (1968) 450, RWS 48's in 22, a RWS 34, and a Weihrauch. I also have a Marauder 25. I started out as a kid with the 177, and slaughtered anything with feathers. As an adult, I used the 48's for pigeons and starlings with excellent results, but they were hard on scopes. I went to the Maruader, love it but the extra's, like a good tank etc are freakin ungodly expensive for what you get.
For your purposes, I would look hard at the RWS models, 34, 48, and scope them with a BSA air rifle rated 2-7. They have a warranty...I know. Or the Weihrauch mentioned earlier. Great little rifles. You will not wear them out for years. I still shoot my rebuilt 1968 vintage Winchester 450/Diana 45
 
I have an rws48 but I also have one of the underlever guns from flying dragon air. that I had him tune. Friend has one also and he is hard on his neighborhood squirrel population. Within 15 yds, that squirrel is history
 
So I'm looking at getting a new air rifle to continue my war on the House Sparrows in my backyard. I've had a Hatsan 1000s but that poor thing has finally shot itself to pieces and I've grown tired of poor groupings resulting in wounded or missed birds. My budget is around the $300 area in either .177 or .22 (I'd prefer .22 but I've got about 1000 rounds of .177 laying around). I'm debating between either an expensive break barrel or a cheap PCP rifle and my options have been narrowed to the following:

PCP:
Diana Stormrider or Beeman QB Chief ii

Break Barrel:
Diana RWS 34 or Beeman R7

My main priority above all is accuracy but the repeating firepower of the PCP rifles seems nice, I just don't want wounded birds hoping around in my suburban neighbors yards. What do you guys think?

Anyone else on here use pellet guns for pests? What are you guys using?
FWB 300
Only a few hundred more dollars
10times the rifle

My rifle shoots .177 JSB 10.3 grain pellets at 550 with pin point accuracy.
Jim Edmonson or JimE airguns.net classifieds is place/person to get one from.
 
Ever consider a
Diana LP8 air pistol

It’s what I use for pest control. Much handier than a rifle. About 600 fps with lighter pellets. About 25 yd effective range using iron sights. I also have a Beeman R9 rifle which is super accurate but somewhat above your stated price range and much above with a decent scope, which it requires.

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Diana_RWS_LP8/1840
 
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FWB 300
Only a few hundred more dollars
10times the rifle

My rifle shoots .177 JSB 10.3 grain pellets at 550 with pin point accuracy.
Jim Edmonson or JimE airguns.net classifieds is place/person to get one from.

Yes, or a old FWB 600 or 601. They are the next gen's of Olympic match air rifles after the FWB 300S. Unlike the 300S which is a recoil-less spring piston rifle the 600 series rifles are single pump pneumatics so the shot impulse must be felt to appreciate how soft it is.

AAAOA, when we start talking about the 25's you have to be very careful about where that pellet will land. These can be at 22rf short power levels.

Lesson #1 is don't buy junk! I hate crappy air rifles!

Or if interested I have a old Sharp Inova, or a Crosman 140, both multi pumps I'd sell.
 
Ive had Winchester (1968) 450, RWS 48's in 22, a RWS 34, and a Weihrauch. I also have a Marauder 25. I started out as a kid with the 177, and slaughtered anything with feathers. As an adult, I used the 48's for pigeons and starlings with excellent results, but they were hard on scopes. I went to the Maruader, love it but the extra's, like a good tank etc are freakin ungodly expensive for what you get.
For your purposes, I would look hard at the RWS models, 34, 48, and scope them with a BSA air rifle rated 2-7. They have a warranty...I know. Or the Weihrauch mentioned earlier. Great little rifles. You will not wear them out for years. I still shoot my rebuilt 1968 vintage Winchester 450/Diana 45
Are those some of the ones in the recent count by the wife:D Thanks for the scope advice though.
 
Look into Flying Dragon Air rifles run by Mike Melick, he imports Xisico air rifles and personally tunes them for much less than the German designs they're based on. Mike is one of the top air gun tuners out there, and he offers a lifetime warranty on his guns.

So I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one of the xisico xs60c from Flying Dragon. It's a lot less than my budget at $130 but the reviews are pretty good and it looks like .5" groups at 25 yards are standard. I'll order one when my next pay check shows up and post some shot groups and a short review once I've got it.
 
Fast 14 is right Mike is a great guy, be resealed a QB78 I got from Midway USA. It came from the factory with bad seals. If mike says its good it will be. He takes some of the guns apart and cleans and replaces the seals with good high quality stuff before it leaves his shop. Have him do that to what ever you buy.
 
The Umarex Gauntlet is very good! The bottle is large and REGULATED! You will get lots of consistent shots - no more adjusting for shifting point of impact as tank pressure drops. I have the .22 and at 35 yards it shoots one ragged hole just under .5" from outside edge to outside edge.! That is using JSB 18.13 grain pellets. The .177 version can be had for around $230 while the .22 jumps up to around $325. It is a large rifle but reasonably quiet and very very accurate for the bargain price.
 
So I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one of the xisico xs60c from Flying Dragon. It's a lot less than my budget at $130 but the reviews are pretty good and it looks like .5" groups at 25 yards are standard. I'll order one when my next pay check shows up and post some shot groups and a short review once I've got it.


That will leave you plenty of extra for a scope and pellets. I like the Leapers 3-9 AO scopes on my springers. Still going strong after 10+ years. Don't waste your money on cheep pellets, get some JSB Exacts or Exact heavies or some of both; Pyramid air always has buy 3 get the 4th free on pellets. Use the discount code NATION20 for an extra 10%.
 
So I'm looking at getting a new air rifle to continue my war on the House Sparrows in my backyard. I've had a Hatsan 1000s but that poor thing has finally shot itself to pieces and I've grown tired of poor groupings resulting in wounded or missed birds. My budget is around the $300 area in either .177 or .22 (I'd prefer .22 but I've got about 1000 rounds of .177 laying around). I'm debating between either an expensive break barrel or a cheap PCP rifle and my options have been narrowed to the following:

PCP:
Diana Stormrider or Beeman QB Chief ii

Break Barrel:
Diana RWS 34 or Beeman R7

My main priority above all is accuracy but the repeating firepower of the PCP rifles seems nice, I just don't want wounded birds hoping around in my suburban neighbors yards. What do you guys think?

Anyone else on here use pellet guns for pests? What are you guys using?
You got a lot of suggestions.

For birds you don’t need power. I’ve used an FWB 300s and at close range (<15y) it is highly effective. It is a mechanical masterpiece. But it is twice your budget.

I like the Hw30 / R7 / Model 34 recommendation for up to 25 yards. But for $300 it won’t have a scope or mounts worth using. So good choice if you don’t mind open sights.
 
Earlier this year I bought a Marksman (Beeman) QB78 cO2 rifle and put a Bushnell Legends Ultra HD 3-9 and it's fairly accurate. More so than I though a cheap air rifle could be.
It takes 2 CO2 cartridges and good for 150 shots ??
At 25 yards it's almost always 1 hole from 5-shots.
Has a decent wood stock too.


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