German SIG plant closing...
- Thread starter IdahoSharpshooter
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same old song here...
I was born there and still have family there what that FREAK has done to that country makes me sick.
I sent my kimber gold combat back to the factory 3 times. Had no satisfaction from remington on a 700. Browning, same thing. I bought a Tikka, no problems. Bought a couple more kimbers, no problem. Buying Today is a crap shoot in the firearms market. My most recent buy is a kimber Micro 9 in 9mm. Handy to conceal & carry, looks good, hard to shoot well. I have to practice a lot. It had a 8 lbs trigger pull. I bought a $50 trigger kit, 20 lbs recoil spring, $50 aggressive hand grips. Installed skate board tape of the front back strap. Their 'checkering' was for amusement only. It's ok for now.
I got a Walther Creed in 9mm. This has to be the most underrated pistol ever. Low recoil, crazy accurate & light weight. And for $320! And Not one problem.
My biggest aggravation is the time and $$ spent on returning to factory. I spent $$ on a trigger job on my browning bar, only to have it replaced by their factory nazis. Shipping $$. The lack of customer service is brutal. Don't get me started on gunsmiths when they 'estimate' how long they will take to get you work done. You might as well 'lone' a hooker $1000, because she will 'promise you' to pay you back next week!
I got a Walther Creed in 9mm. This has to be the most underrated pistol ever. Low recoil, crazy accurate & light weight. And for $320! And Not one problem.
My biggest aggravation is the time and $$ spent on returning to factory. I spent $$ on a trigger job on my browning bar, only to have it replaced by their factory nazis. Shipping $$. The lack of customer service is brutal. Don't get me started on gunsmiths when they 'estimate' how long they will take to get you work done. You might as well 'lone' a hooker $1000, because she will 'promise you' to pay you back next week!
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For me. Germany was the canary in the coal mine. The immigrants that have just walked in and have taken o0ver w/o a shot fired is sickening. The only country that has their house in order is Hungary, and the EU hates them for it. I wish the best for your family.
CJ6
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Sad to hear about Sigs plant closing.
The German pistols are the most accurate semi automatics I have.
I was stationed in Stuttgart (Eslingen) in the late 70s. Even at that time the influx of foreigners was evident and held in disdain by the locals(yes even Americans) though the younger generations didn't seem as bothered.
The German pistols are the most accurate semi automatics I have.
I was stationed in Stuttgart (Eslingen) in the late 70s. Even at that time the influx of foreigners was evident and held in disdain by the locals(yes even Americans) though the younger generations didn't seem as bothered.
It is where they receive stuff from Chicom
The 1751 bit is JP Sauer. The original firearms company of all companies that still produces top rack firearms, (and some cheapies for US market). Sig-Sauer is another company formed originally so it could make some swiss invented weapons in germany (P210) that couldnt be made in Switzerland due to its laws. Sig went 'international' with US production facilities and shot itself in the foot because this excluded it from being able to tender 'made in EU' govt purchases which is the bulk of production over there. So they are now going to be an 'American' company with a European label, or something like that. Now Sigs will be assembled by Hispanics instead of Muslims. Thanks to Putin, even the lefties over there and wanting to boost production of firearms. Some are probably taking classes as I write.
A friend (female and a good shooter) purchased a new P226 and shot it. Took it to a competition, and couldn't hit shite with it. And so it sat after purchasing an HK.
About 11 years ago I asked her if she still had it, yes, is it for sale? Yes! I asked her to come up with a number so that I can purchase it. A couple of days later an agreeable price. I got the gun plus 4 mags, a holster and 2 double mag pouches.
With factory factory 9mm and known reloads to the range I went.
The gun was shooting 17" low at 7yds. Where was the QC? I needed a lower front and the taller rear sight. I had the rear but shopped around for the front, none around. I contacted SIG customer service in NH and was told that they hadn't had any of that number sight in years, plus even if they did have it, they could ship to me (I'm in Canada). Afriernd sourced one, got it, and the next time I was in the US I paid and brought it home.
The P226 is now perfect.
About 11 years ago I asked her if she still had it, yes, is it for sale? Yes! I asked her to come up with a number so that I can purchase it. A couple of days later an agreeable price. I got the gun plus 4 mags, a holster and 2 double mag pouches.
With factory factory 9mm and known reloads to the range I went.
The gun was shooting 17" low at 7yds. Where was the QC? I needed a lower front and the taller rear sight. I had the rear but shopped around for the front, none around. I contacted SIG customer service in NH and was told that they hadn't had any of that number sight in years, plus even if they did have it, they could ship to me (I'm in Canada). Afriernd sourced one, got it, and the next time I was in the US I paid and brought it home.
The P226 is now perfect.
Yea read the story on recreational 1911 shooting. A Turkish made 1911 for $300+ and they run like a well-oiled machine. A lot of companies are producing crap and calling it good, and some are quietly improving till they make good products. One of the pistol gurus said CNC has made a 1911 that cost 3-4 hundred dollars run as good and as tight as a $1000-dollar 1911 of the past. The key is learning who is trying to get better and who is stealing money from it's customers. I have a few Remington's because in the past it is the only brand many smiths would work on, now I wouldn't own any they would all be Tikka's.
When I lived overseas SigSauer would dump its seconds in the 3rd world. Came in a diff box. The wholesalers would sell them at full retail without the boxes. A friend had one and while we were shooting a 'chunk' fell out of the frame. It was a rock hard epoxy that filled in a small olive sized casting bubble. no kiddin! The pistol had a factory black finish which covered the defect. Thats when I lost all respect for SIg. What kind of company would disguise defects and then send out into the market place?
ronsatspokane
Gold $$ Contributor
I was talking to a motorcycle friend of mine who is Austrian and moved to Munich a number of years back. I said something German quality and his response was that those days are over. This was about 4 years ago and it sounds like German industry had been going off the cliff for a while.
Mark W
Gold $$ Contributor
That’s the plan for here too, if something isn’t done to stop it.
Mark W
Gold $$ Contributor
I don’t know what’s worse, those pesky "sky is falling" posts, or the "keep your head firmly planted in the sand" ones. Hmm
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