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Front rest for shooting 600 yard matches:

I have been shooting 600 yard matches for the last few years and I would like to upgrade my front rest.
I have one of those Caldwell Fire Control front rests. It isn't really very good quality. Originally the vertical post had a rack and pinion coarse adjustment with a big handle to lock it in place, but after a few shots the locking screw would come lose and the whole top would fall all the way down to the base.
I replaced that with a 3/4" bolt with a nut to do the adjusting. I just drilled and tapped holes on the flats of the nut and screwed in 1/4" bolts to use as handles to adjust the nut. I kept the locking screw to keep the top piece from rotating. It is better and does not drop unexpectedly, but it is still kind of coarse and the fine adjustment has never worked very well.

My question is do I really need to spend over a thousand dollars to get a decent front rest that will work or is that the price of all good front rests?

I started with a used Fire Control and upgraded to a used SEB when one came up. The amount of travel of the SEB rest via joystick was at least double the travel of the Firecontrol. The SEB is very adjustable and extremely well built.

Do you have to spend a $1000 bucks, no. Can you resell a SEB rest easily? Oh yeah....
 
Would I lose anything going from a Sinclair comp to a mini?
Occasionally shooting prone, mostly shooting off the bench for groups as small as I can.
Thanks
 
Would I lose anything going from a Sinclair comp to a mini?
Occasionally shooting prone, mostly shooting off the bench for groups as small as I can.
Thanks
Man
Both those you mentioned are awesome rest , hard to imagine a loss with either one.
 
In all fairness from the pic. it looks like you could open the spacing on the ears to make work. and get a 4" bag from Protector that is made to fit in 3" spacing. They will make anything you want there .... good people..... jim
 
In all fairness from the pic. it looks like you could open the spacing on the ears to make work. and get a 4" bag from Protector that is made to fit in 3" spacing. They will make anything you want there .... good people..... jim


That is kind of what I was thinking of trying. The Seb Mini looks to be a great rest.
 
I have a Shadetree on an older three leg rest. That is my go to when I want a joystick.

I also have a Randolph F-Class with their Mark II TOP. There is No rest that is more stable. The belt drive elevation adjustment is as smooth as silk. Where ever you set it, it stays right there. It is heavy but it doesn't move!
 
I have a Shadetree on an older three leg rest. That is my go to when I want a joystick.

I also have a Randolph F-Class with their Mark II TOP. There is No rest that is more stable. The belt drive elevation adjustment is as smooth as silk. Where ever you set it, it stays right there. It is heavy but it doesn't move!
is that one of those randolph rests that the top moves around?
 
Most long range shooters try to get all their rounds down range in a quick manner. They pick a condition and get with it. A co axial rest works best for this. You will get back on target in a very quick manner.

In LR BR it's a Catch-22. When your rifle is set up and tracking properly you don't need that many adjustments between shots and non-coaxial rests tend to be a bit more stable. Now on those days when tracking isn't going well and you are adjusting between each shot, a co-axial is superior.

I don't shoot on my belly, but it seems to me that a co-axial press would be the ticket for F-Class given the way they shoot. Butch's Shadetree top on a Bald Eagle is definitely the least expensive way to get a quality co-axial.
 
In LR BR it's a Catch-22. When your rifle is set up and tracking properly you don't need that many adjustments between shots and non-coaxial rests tend to be a bit more stable. Now on those days when tracking isn't going well and you are adjusting between each shot, a co-axial is superior.

I don't shoot on my belly, but it seems to me that a co-axial press would be the ticket for F-Class given the way they shoot. Butch's Shadetree top on a Bald Eagle is definitely the least expensive way to get a quality co-axial.

You hit the nail on the head, shooting 600 or 1000 yd. Br. tracking is paramount.... no need for a joy stick rest. F class... yes, joy stick is king because you reach the stick with easy when you shoot off your belly. ...... jim
 

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