Freedom Benchrest allow 40lb metal Rear Rest?

[Mulligan]

Learning how to order the correct rear bag and then learning how to correctly fill it is a talent that escapes a bunch of people.

I still struggle with this. I bet I have 6-8 rear bags in a shed collecting dust.
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[Jvance513]

This made me think of another point. Most if not all of the guys around here are not using the rear for adjustments. They’re almost all solid, no adjustment set ups with adjustable legs to level up on crappy tops AND coarse height adjustment. In the before times you couldn’t use anything but leather spacers or dead bottoms to add height to a bag that was too short. Wood spacers would have been easier and far less costly but was illegal.

Learning how to order the correct rear bag and then learning how to correctly fill it is a talent that escapes a bunch of people.

THIS. Learning to tune your rear bag is an art within itself. Where to add sand and take sand away, where you position your stock in that bag. This is a game of fine tuning. 80 percent of this game is won in the loading room. It’s not hard to load good ammo now days with the components out there. Get a good smith, learn to truly tune a gun and never settle for “that’s good enough” and learn good bench manners. That’s the other 20 percent that people struggle with. The fine details.

 

[LRPV]

I still struggle with this. I bet I have 6-8 rear bags in a shed collecting dust.
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Gotta start somewhere. I’ve got a bunch of fronts and rears I need to sell. Thing is, they might not be the best for mine but work perfect somewhere else.

 

[Mulligan]

Gotta start somewhere. I’ve got a bunch of fronts and rears I need to sell. Thing is, they might not be the best for mine but work perfect somewhere else.

Maybe a big old fashioned swap-meet at 6.0????
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[jackieschmidt]

Has anybody noticed that in all of these discussions about front rests, rear bags, bench manners, etc it all is designed with one thing in mind.

That is, getting shots down range as fast as possible in a favorable condition. This involves cycling the rifle and returning it to as close to the previous point of aim.

This is one reason I like Score Shooting, where you have to move the rifle up, down and around the target. Since it takes a certain time to cycle the rifle and do this, it makes keeping your eye on and reading conditions paramount .
That is one of the major differences between NBRSA/IBS Group Shooting and NBRSA/IBS Score Shooting.

 

[Owens85]

Has anybody noticed that in all of these discussions about front rests, rear bags, bench manners, etc it all is designed with one thing in mind.

That is, getting shots down range as fast as possible in a favorable condition. This involves cycling the rifle and returning it to as close to the previous point of aim.

This is one reason I like Score Shooting, where you have to move the rifle up, down and around the target. Since it takes a certain time to cycle the rifle and do this, it makes keeping your eye on and reading conditions paramount .
That is one of the major differences between NBRSA/IBS Group Shooting and NBRSA/IBS Score Shooting.

I have because I shot both score and long range (600) BR. And your correct when Im shooting 600 BR I'm looking for a condition and running usually when Im shooting score I'm picking my way through each bull. But 100-300 you can get a handle on the conditions with flags past that it gets difficult.

 

[jackieschmidt]

I have because I shot both score and long range (600) BR. And your correct when Im shooting 600 BR I'm looking for a condition and running usually when Im shooting score I'm picking my way through each bull. But 100-300 you can get a handle on the conditions with flags past that it gets difficult.

By the way, Jason, this is (probably) what I am taking to the Tack Driver this year.
It is basically my LV 6PPC with some weight in the back and the March Majesta Scope.

 

[R.Morehouse]

I shot free recoil a lot and found that the bag placement and fill were critical for me to be successful. Not very hard to do in a controlled environment, but within the constraints of the 5min set-up time, I found it to be a PITA. A few years back, I started shooting everything "pinned", and it has worked out well. I use a rest with a rotating top ( Seb Mini-X ), set it up there, put the gun in it, get it on target, tighten the ears down, then lock down the top. The rear bag is easily set & checked by running a measured length of string from the rest back to the bag to set the distance and orientation. It took a bit of learning to not increase my pin pressure as the relay progressed, but it has worked out well, and honestly, I enjoy having the contact with the gun. A lot of guys shoot pinned.....

Regards
Rick

 

[Owens85]

By the way, Jason, this is (probably) what I am taking to the Tack Driver this year.
It is basically my LV 6PPC with some weight in the back and the March Majesta Scope.View attachment 1688511

That looks like a sweet set up Jackie!!

 

[jelenko]

not increase my pin pressure as the relay progressed

Do I have it right that 'pinned' means you're 'pinning' the rifle with your shoulder?

 

[R.Morehouse]

Do I have it right that 'pinned' means you're 'pinning' the rifle with your shoulder?

Yes........

 

[Ccrider]

By the way, Jason, this is (probably) what I am taking to the Tack Driver this year.
It is basically my LV 6PPC with some weight in the back and the March Majesta Scope.View attachment 1688511

Tell us more about the weight in the back. Is that a Scoville or Scarborough stock. Looks like the latter.

 

[Canuckienns]

Is this the new face of Freecom BR. Set ups weight to to 100 pounds. Rear is solid metal wrapped with slick tape, and no sand anywhere. Oh yes, the monkey rented to pull is back in his cage.

 

[JFrank]

That’s a lot of hardware on the bench for sure. Is this a light gun class ?

 

[Evan]

Did they win? How did these behemoths do compared to normal bag guns? I have yet to see conclusive proof that these things can outshoot a bag gun regularly, but we will find out now that guys are trying it.

Another thought: most rear bags weigh a considerable amount and don’t move if you inadvertently bump them on the bench. They also cost hundreds of dollars. I see little difference between them and a mechanical rear rest in functional tracking.

Did they carry their stuff to the bench? My personal rule is if I can’t carry it, then I’m not shooting it. It’s just practical; I have to be able to carry it up and down the stairs in my house to clean it, store it, etc. and I don’t want to suffer everytime I have to lug my stuff around.

 

[Canuckienns]

They make the monkey and a steel plate bearer sluck the set up parts to the bench. Note the front rest has no sand filled parts just solid material with anti friction tape wrapped.

 

[Evan]

They make the monkey and a steel plate bearer sluck the set up parts to the bench. Note the front rest has no sand filled parts just solid material with anti friction tape wrapped.

How did they do in the match? Did they win anything?

 

[quest450]

How did they do in the match? Did they win anything?

Evan, I've heard a rumor that @Canuckienns got his assbeat by a tactical rifle with 40lb rear rest and a uncaged monkey from Washula was jerking the trigger......sometimes you just can't make thisshit up

 

[Canuckienns]

Wrong young man. Bills set up was probably 80 pounds, no sand anywhere. I won the shoot 194 and Washula was 193. I shot with a light gun, Milford rear sand bag and a SEB front rest. They took it very well. I hear the Tampa zoo has rental monkey that understands some sort of Eastern European flat lander lingo. Touche"

 

[Canuckienns]

We are talking about rests Only ! If Washula was shooting a tactical gun, it was because he thought it was an advantage. I shot a light gun.
Maybe it was that the tactical gun had a aluminum plate a foot wide bolted to the forend resting in a modified solid metal front rest with no sand or padding.