Francis Scott Key Bridge, Baltimore Md.

[hogpatrol]

One engine, a bow thruster, two generators and two aux generators.

Dali is propelled by a single low-speed two-stroke crosshead diesel engine coupled to a fixed-pitch propeller. Her main engine, a 9-cylinder MAN-B&W 9S90ME-C9.2[11] unit manufactured by Hyundai Heavy Industries under license, is rated 41,480 kW (55,630 hp) at 82.5 rpm.[2] Her service speed is 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph).[5] For maneuvering in ports, Dali has a single 3,000 kW (4,000 hp) bow thruster. Electricity is generated onboard by two 3,840 kW (5,150 hp) and two 4,400 kW (5,900 hp) auxiliary diesel generators.[4]

 

[Camper]

How does a vessel this size lose power?

Cyber.

 

[rebs]

There is a fishy smell to what happened

 

[Bc'z]

Cyber.

I'm thinking Epstein flipped the lights off.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Just read there is an obscure 1851 law called the Titanic law that can limit the ship owners liability............so the American taxpayer is on the hook, as usual, to pay for this fiasco

Baltimore is a major port that services the entire Country. The entire Country should be willing to help get this tragedy rectified.

My Google-fu tells me that dependent on size and capacity of vessel they will have 2-4 engines.

A typical cargo ship like this has one main propulsion engine, for this size vessel, it would be a 50 to 60 thousand horsepower Diesel.

There are auxiliary generators that run the rest of the ship. To my knowledge, there are always two sets, one is the primary, the other is the standby in case there is a failure with the primary. If the analysis of the video is correct, the primary power generator failed, the standby kicked in, and then for some reason it failed as well.

The steering system is powered by hydraulics. Electric motors run the hydraulic pumps that run the steering. If you loose electricity, no steering.

 

[CA_Shooter]

Baltimore is a major port that services the entire Country. The entire Country should be willing to help get this tragedy rectified.

A typical cargo ship like this has one main propulsion engine, for this size vessel, it would be a 50 to 60 thousand horsepower Diesel.

There are auxiliary generators that run the rest of the ship. To my knowledge, there are always two sets, one is the primary, the other is the standby in case there is a failure with the primary. If the analysis of the video is correct, the primary power generator failed, the standby kicked in, and then for some reason it failed as well.

The steering system is powered by hydraulics. Electric motors run the hydraulic pumps that run the steering. If you loose electricity, no steering.

I know nothing about ships.

Does this mean that:

1. The primary engine failed
2. The primary aux generator failed
3. Then the backup aux generator failed

?

 

[NorCalMikie]

Biden said he’s going to try and get the taxpayer’s to foot the bill for a new bridge.

STUPID said he's been across that bridge a bunch of times by car and train? Only problem? Trains don't cross that bridge.
We expected less?
He'll spend the TAX payers $$$$ to fix it PDQ? But he needs more $$$$ to close the "secure" border? Oh tay buckwheat.

 

[jackieschmidt]

I know nothing about ships.

Does this mean that:

1. The primary engine failed
2. The primary aux generator failed
3. Then the backup aux generator failed

?

It’s difficult to say about the main propulsion engine. Keep in mind, if the prop is not producing thrust, the rudder really does not work very well, as it works by deflecting water flow from the prop.

Since the ship was still moving at a fairly robust speed when it hit the bridge abutment, the main engine might still have been functioning.

As was said, the investigation should pinpoint the exact chain of events.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Guess I hope that phrase isn't used on my next plane ride. "Sometimes things just happen" Wings falling off, Engines in flames....My gut says something isn't right with this. Thats all I need. Dundalk Marine Terminal offline for how many days? The supply chain .... has a major problem right now. Along with the victims and their families. How does a vessel this size lose power?

I'm ignorant of virtually all of what may or may not have contributed to this but like you, it just feels wrong vs what we are being told. Angle, speed, losing power, just lots of factors. It's just in my gut is all. Wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out that we aren't being told everything at this time, for whatever reason. Never fear though, Mayor Pete is on top of this, as usual. Doesn't that make everyone feel much better?

 

[NorCalMikie]

Congress needs to deal with that.

That's funny right there! Too busy back biting each other in the back room.
Just FIX IT and deal with the cost later. After all, it's only money, not theirs to blow so no biggie. They need to place the blame on SOMEBODY. Makes them look better.

 

[DShortt]

There is an idea being suggested that the fuel may have been bad/contaminated.

That is a plausible explanation if true.

 

[6BRA]

There is an idea being suggested that the fuel may have been bad/contaminated.

That is a plausible explanation if true.

all generators out at once?

 

[DShortt]

all generators out at once?

Depending on the amount of contaminates in the fuel, it's possible.

I'd not be surprised if it's standard practice to run a test on them all before leaving a port. Quite possible that was enough to burn most of the fuel in the system and then it wouldn't take much to get contaminated fuel.

I don't know if the fuel was bad obviously, but I can see how it could be possible.

Ask any truck driver about contaminated fuel. It happens fairly often.

 

[markT]

“Oh-oh say can you see?”
NOPE

 

[Kevin57]

Talked to a Client that is a ship captain in that area. The talk among the pros is that the ship lost propulsion and they were able to start the emergency generators to get power to go hard rudder over to one side and got the left anchor deployed. Don't know if this is true but my client is a pro. His take is that without the main engines with ship that size the crew were just passengers no matter what they did.

Don't know what is true. He sails out of that area. He's a pretty matter of fact guy.

 

[6BRA]

Depending on the amount of contaminates in the fuel, it's possible.

I'd not be surprised if it's standard practice to run a test on them all before leaving a port. Quite possible that was enough to burn most of the fuel in the system and then it wouldn't take much to get contaminated fuel.

I don't know if the fuel was bad obviously, but I can see how it could be possible.

Ask any truck driver about contaminated fuel. It happens fairly often.

So, with this contaminated fuel theory, how long would it take to clear contaminated fuel? 5 seconds?
Sounds like these are NASCAR grade mechanics. C'mon.... burnt fuel looked pretty black once the coal was poured.

 

[D Coots]

There were electrical problems while at the dock in the days before departing.

 

[Brians356]

Guess I hope that phrase isn't used on my next plane ride. "Sometimes things just happen" Wings falling off, Engines in flames....My gut says something isn't right with this. Thats all I need. Dundalk Marine Terminal offline for how many days? The supply chain .... has a major problem right now. Along with the victims and their families. How does a vessel this size lose power?

"Life contains a particle of risk, Jack."

Mr. Merriweather, Little Big Man (1970)

 

[Bill Norris]

STUPID said he's been across that bridge a bunch of times by car and train? Only problem? Trains don't cross that bridge.
We expected less?
He'll spend the payers $$$$ to fix it PDQ? But he needs more $$$$ to close the "secure" border? Oh tay buckwheat.

Oh yea, have no fear guys. Loser puppet biden and his string puller Ovomit already has it figured out. Taxpayers will foot the bill.

 

[hogpatrol]

Hopefully there's someone thinking and a barge crane is on its way and crews lined up to cut it in to manageable pieces and get it out of the way. So far haven't heard any news on that part of the disaster.
From this standpoint, it looks like the politicians/highway people are sitting on their thumbs.