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Firearm Restrictions in Australia

raythemanroe said:
JRS said:
Just curious Ray. Would you happen to be a WTS member ???

JRS, were you honestly saying you believe Obama cares about censorship? Eddie, Are you a closet liberal?


Ray
Did I actually say that Ray? Or is that simply one more of your visions ??? No answer as to whether you are a WTS member? Are you searching for your visions in the NWT?
 
I must be paranoid that our POTUS was quoted before he was POTUS stating that he wanted to institute a National police force because he feels racism runs rampant through our law enforcement. Now he is attacking police officers before the verdict is in calling them racist and walking Rev. Sharpton out asking for a National police force.. I wonder if any of you have thought about what nationalizing our police force may mean? Must be my tin foil hat, because where you live he is the tower of honesty..


Ray
 
raythemanroe said:
I must be paranoid that our POTUS was quoted before he was POTUS stating that he wanted to institute a National police force because he feels racism runs rampant through our law enforcement. Now he is attacking police officers before the verdict is in calling them racist and walking Rev. Sharpton out asking for a National police force.. I wonder if any of you have thought about what nationalizing our police force may mean? Must be my tin foil hat, because were you live he is the tower of honesty..


Ray
You are absolutely delusional Ray :-[ And still refuse to answer the questions!
 
JRS said:
raythemanroe said:
I must be paranoid that our POTUS was quoted before he was POTUS stating that he wanted to institute a National police force because he feels racism runs rampant through our law enforcement. Now he is attacking police officers before the verdict is in calling them racist and walking Rev. Sharpton out asking for a National police force.. I wonder if any of you have thought about what nationalizing our police force may mean? Must be my tin foil hat, because were you live he is the tower of honesty..


Ray
You are absolutely delusional Ray :-[ And still refuse to answer the questions!

Did you vote for Obama? No, I am not a member of whatever groups you are referring to.. Now buck up and answer..

Ray
 
EddieHarren said:
Looks like you're right Ray. Obama and his bunch are pretty much unstoppable. I'm gonna pull a "Jonestown". Wanna join me?

Eddie, go ahead I'll catch up.. Can you bring some of your troll friends with you while your at it?

Eddie, Before you drink your juice take eight minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuh9k6Ttsm0
Ray
 
raythemanroe said:
JRS said:
raythemanroe said:
I must be paranoid that our POTUS was quoted before he was POTUS stating that he wanted to institute a National police force because he feels racism runs rampant through our law enforcement. Now he is attacking police officers before the verdict is in calling them racist and walking Rev. Sharpton out asking for a National police force.. I wonder if any of you have thought about what nationalizing our police force may mean? Must be my tin foil hat, because were you live he is the tower of honesty..


Ray
You are absolutely delusional Ray :-[ And still refuse to answer the questions!

Did you vote for Obama? No, I am not a member of whatever groups you are referring to.. Now buck up and answer..

Ray
Bucking up for ya Ray ;) No…. I did not vote for Obama. Might you be a doomsday prepper, trying to persuade others to follow your in your delirious conspiracies? Fess up Ray. You've been reading too much in your New World Translation.
 
Personally I do not care what they do in other countries.. let the people who reside there deal with it. Or not. I do not live there nor do I have any interest in doing so.

What I am concerned with is what is going on in my country and home state..
 
JRS said:
raythemanroe said:
JRS said:
raythemanroe said:
I must be paranoid that our POTUS was quoted before he was POTUS stating that he wanted to institute a National police force because he feels racism runs rampant through our law enforcement. Now he is attacking police officers before the verdict is in calling them racist and walking Rev. Sharpton out asking for a National police force.. I wonder if any of you have thought about what nationalizing our police force may mean? Must be my tin foil hat, because were you live he is the tower of honesty..


Ray
You are absolutely delusional Ray :-[ And still refuse to answer the questions!

Did you vote for Obama? No, I am not a member of whatever groups you are referring to.. Now buck up and answer..

Ray
Bucking up for ya Ray ;) No…. I did not vote for Obama. Might you be a doomsday prepper, trying to persuade others to follow your in your delirious conspiracies? Fess up Ray. You've been reading too much in your New World Translation.

You are apparently delirious thinking you live in a perfect world. You could just follow the campaign donations, but you probably think nations that sponsor terror give money away for free without expectations? Let me guess, you probably believe Net Neutrality is so the internet can be neutral and fair? Obamacare is about affordable healthcare? I would assume you think gun control is to keep us safe?

Ray
 
EddieHarren said:
I only know one "sort of troll" on this site and he is a hard charging, chest thumping champion of NY gun rights. You know who I mean?
And it is becomes so predicable....to the point where you can read the post and you and can pretty much know who the author is. The constant ranting and raving of impending doom and gloom and "I'm right and you're wrong" only lessens ones credibility. Also scanning the Internet for videos or articles to back up ones believe system lends itself to prove there is no shortage of crazies in this world. Ray
 
EddieHarren said:
I only know one "sort of troll" on this site and he is a hard charging, chest thumping champion of NY gun rights. You know who I mean?

I'll take that as a complement from you Eddie, I find that a better service then trolling around on said posts saying that our fellow gun enthusiasts are crazies and need not worry about the political climate.. I would give you more credit then a troll, but you never offer any sort of wisdom other then the negative posts you seem to enjoy.. I'll go back to pounding my chest for what I believe in and you, who knows what you truly believe.. At least everyone knows where I stand and it isn't cowardness..


Ray
 
"Bravado and Cowardice make strange bedfellows"- Unknown

Preaching to the choir never accomplished anything, other than putting the choir to sleep.
 
cr500,

whatever you say, but I am going to a gun show in the morning. If I have the $$$ to buy an AR-15, or Glock in 45 acp, I can pay the person for it, and walk right out the door. No paperwork.
 
As an Australian, I don't find our laws as bad as the majority of countries out there (In the states I have lived in anyway).
I know people who live near me and own over a hundred rifles, shot guns and pistols. We do have to apply for a permit to acquire which can take a few weeks, but some have a few permits in at once if they are after a few guns. Our gun shops are usually fully stocked with all types of primers and powders, so we have not felt the shortage many countries have.
The restrictions we have are that we cannot own machine guns at all. To own a semi auto, we need a pretty good reason such as pest control on a large property. We cant own large calibre pistols (in most states anyway I think). We don't have the open laws which USA have but the restrictions we do have don't affect most of us in practice.
In the mean time, I have a friend coming over from USA in a month, I hope to take some time off mid week to get him out to a few of the 10 or so F class ranges within 3 hrs drive.

To an American your post sound a lot like this theoretical scenario. Let's say America overturned the 4th amendment; the one which has to do with unreasonable search and seizures.

I might say, "Well it's inconvenient when the cops knock on my door at dinner time to have a look around, but they're always polite. They wipe their jack-boots before walking on my carpet and when they root around in my wife's underwear drawer I've never seen them sniff her panties...... not even once. The never find anything of course since I'm a law abiding citizen, but I'm happy that they come every few weeks because it makes me think they must also be visiting the crack houses in Chicago at least once a year or so. It hasn't reduced crack sales or the violence associated with drugs, but since I have nothing to hide why should I mind if the police snoop around my house as long as it's not more than once a month? And even though they can now take stuff if they want to, they never take anything of value except unimportant things like a little bit of food or something to drink. Sometimes they take my steaks and last month they took a nice bottle of whiskey, but that's not normal. Usually they just take a cookie or doughnut or two. All in all I don't think we really needed that outdated 4th amendment and if someday it helps reduce crack use, it's worth it to me."
 
Firearms restrictions in other countries are an eye opener. That is what Hillary, Schumer and co. are all about. That is the reasonable gun controls they keep chirping about. They have not quit in years and they have incrementally raised the bar of owning firearms. They will continue to do so because it is who they are. They have attacked firearms, ammunition and even manufacturing as well as the consumer.

Until liberalism is defeated the constitution will always be under attack. I wish everyone would buck up and join the NRA and their state organizations as well. It is only through their continued efforts that we have any say in the process.

Governments are money hogs. Through licenses and fees the controlling agencies become stand alone entities that have no oversight. This is government's overreach and it must be stopped. This has been going on for years but Obama has brought new meaning to weaponizing the government.

Why we want firearms and what for is none of the government's business. Any control flies in the face of the constitution and the Declaration of Independence. All government agencies must be held accountable for their actions.

Joe
 
I do remember Bill Clinton congratulating our then Prime Minister John Howard for implementing gun control in '96. The Clinton/Sorros nexus really became apparent some years later when the Port Arthur 'exercise' was investigated by Andrew Macgregor. The US did well to elect Donald Trump. Your concerns about Hillary Clinton were well founded when it comes to gun control.
 
I am in total agreement with Catshooter on this. In 1968 the anti's were on the verge of getting national registration. In good faith the NRA pressured legislators to formulate the 1968 gun control bill which averted registration and was hailed by the antis as the last form of gun control they would ever need or ask for.

Unfortunately it takes a "big money" political organization to have any sway with our government. The NRA isn't perfect but it is the closet thing we have to a united front for gun rights.

MHO
T W Hudson

Its a fact, the gun control law of 1968 if used, is the only law
ever needed.
If a convicted felon attempts to purchase or does purchase
a firearm, its a crime. If this law isnt enforced, why pile another on top in an attempt to restrict lawful transactions by complying citizens.
On the form 4473 if you answer all questions truthfully, there
is no other questions that can be added to make the purchase anymore safe, or legal.
The paper trail has its place, but ends with the honest law abiding citizen. When guns are outlawed,outlaws will have guns. LDS 30YRS LE Retired
 

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