FFL requirements shipping firearms out of state?

[RJinTexas]

I'd like to know the legal requirements when shipping out of state any rifle or rifle action that I own which has already been registered in my name to a gun smith who has a FFL. What are his requirement when he returns my firearm? Does he have to mail it to a FFL holder being the firearm is already registered to me or can he just ship to my home address? I do not have a FFL. I know there are different requirement for pistols. Any of you smiths out there I'd appreciate your input. A lot of the problems I run into are with the carriers.

Thanks
RJ

 

[shooter63]

FFL requirmens shipping firearms out of state?

i have shipped long guns to hart barrels in laffette ny for yrs to have work done on them with no problems i dont possess a ffl but they do thanks alan

 

[butchlambert]

FFL requirmens shipping firearms out of state?

For long guns you can ship to an FFL for sale or repair. They can ship it back to you. It does not have to be shipped back to an FFL. All of this info is on the BATF website. The post office will ship long guns and shotguns. If they say no, tell them to read their regs. You do not have to disclose that it is a rifle. I have a UPS account and they pick up and deliver my rifles when I choose to use them.

Butch

 

[Taildrag15X]

FFL requirmens shipping firearms out of state?

This should help you understand, the index for what you are asking about starts on page 170, and I think your question will be answered starting on page 176 or so:

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf

I've never been able to have a gunsmith ship my rifle back to me from out of State, they have ALWAYS made me give them an FFL to ship to.

A person may only acquire a firearm
within the person’s own State,
except that he or she may purchase
or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun,
in person, at a licensee's premises
in any State, provided the sale
complies with State laws applicable in
the State of sale and the State where
the purchaser resides. A person may
borrow or rent a firearm in any State
for temporary use for lawful sporting
purposes.
[18 U.S.C 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27
CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

 

[JRS]

FFL requirmens shipping firearms out of state?

This should help you understand, the index for what you are asking about starts on page 170, and I think your question will be answered starting on page 176 or so:

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf

I've never been able to have a gunsmith ship my rifle back to me from out of State, they have ALWAYS made me give them an FFL to ship to.

A person may only acquire a firearm
within the person’s own State,
except that he or she may purchase
or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun,
in person, at a licensee's premises
in any State, provided the sale
complies with State laws applicable in
the State of sale and the State where
the purchaser resides. A person may
borrow or rent a firearm in any State
for temporary use for lawful sporting
purposes.
[18 U.S.C 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27
CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

This quote pertains to the selling or purchasing of firearms. Not shipping.

 

[butchlambert]

FFL requirmens shipping firearms out of state?

JRS is correct. This has nothing to do with receiving something that has been sent to a gunsmith and returned to you.
Butch

 

[Taildrag15X]

FFL requirmens shipping firearms out of state?

OK, in my rush to Copy/Paste from the BATFE Handbook I have (the link I posted) I got the wrong info out there.....I know that it covers shipping, by an individual and an FFL, somewhere in it.

I just found the best answer though to my repeated screwings, Page 193, Question P24;

Neither the transfer of a repaired
firearm nor the transfer of a replacement
firearm would be subject to the
requirements of the Brady law. Furthermore,
the regulations provide that
a Form 4473 is not required to cover
these transactions. However, the
licensee’s permanent acquisition and
disposition records should reflect the
return of the firearm or the transfer of
a replacement firearm.

I now know I was being had!