My first Post. I am having a 6BR rifle built and delivered in September. I enjoy target shooting and that is what it is for. I have never shot in competition but I am thinking about F-Class Open. My problem is I have limited range of motion in my neck. I shoot prone with a small bag under my chest. Any chance this would be legal in F-Class?
F-Class Open
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Hi. I use a couch cushion to get my eyes up to scope level because I have the same issue. Lots of arthritis in my spine where the shoulders stop and the neck starts. Very few shooters will have a problem with it until you start winning. Then you will hear all sorts of learned theories. I didn't even place at the first Mississippi State Championship and someone complained, presumably because I beat them. After that I petitioned the NRA for what we laughingly call the "crippled card" and I got it. The only caviat is that while you can win matches, if you shoot a 200 20X in an NRA tournament it won't count as a National Record. My wife now shoots with me and while she has a bit of trouble beating me in a match she had no problem setting a 600 yd national record.
You can imagine my chagrin.
If you don't mind the record part, I would recommend that you go ahead and get the card. It'll keep you from having to apologize for breathing and allow you to hear yourself say. "Read it and weep."
You can imagine my chagrin.
If you don't mind the record part, I would recommend that you go ahead and get the card. It'll keep you from having to apologize for breathing and allow you to hear yourself say. "Read it and weep."
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You can alway try 600 yard Benchrest. The 6br is suited very well in that game. It will work in F-class too but there are much better choices IMO.
I too have a limited motion in my neck and will try the chest pillow, tonight actually to see if it helps. One thing I have found while shooting matches is that I cani't spend much time behind my scope between shots so I do not get a very good look at the mirage. To maybe help me I am going to try mounting my spotting scope on a low mount stand so I have the ability to hopefully mount the spotting scope in a fashion that I can watch the mirage through that comfortably and get behind the rifle scope when the conditions are good.
wade
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Jc,
I understand your challenges. I just helped a friend get started refining his position Monday night. He is in his early 70's and like most of us, he is paying for his youthful fun. He is also powerfully built with a large chest, but bad flexibility. A couple things helped him get more comfortable. First, I had him lay off the rifle at an angle such as when shooting with a sling. This position allowed him to bring up his right knee and took much pressure off his chest, which in turn allowed him a more comfortable head position. He was laying more on his left side than flat on his stomach/chest. We put an extra rolled up shooting mat under the right side of his chest for some added support but a pillow would work too. We also found that raising the rifle up in the air as high as the Farley would allow gave him some more comfort. His is building some boards to add height options to the rear bag as well. We even discussed having a taller post machined for the Farley. The plan is to make the equipment fit his comfortable position.
Scott
I understand your challenges. I just helped a friend get started refining his position Monday night. He is in his early 70's and like most of us, he is paying for his youthful fun. He is also powerfully built with a large chest, but bad flexibility. A couple things helped him get more comfortable. First, I had him lay off the rifle at an angle such as when shooting with a sling. This position allowed him to bring up his right knee and took much pressure off his chest, which in turn allowed him a more comfortable head position. He was laying more on his left side than flat on his stomach/chest. We put an extra rolled up shooting mat under the right side of his chest for some added support but a pillow would work too. We also found that raising the rifle up in the air as high as the Farley would allow gave him some more comfort. His is building some boards to add height options to the rear bag as well. We even discussed having a taller post machined for the Farley. The plan is to make the equipment fit his comfortable position.
Scott
I'm having some similar neck problems. I'm going to have to do something.
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
There are a lot of shooters that use pillows, towels, and such to lay on. No one has complained about it that I know of. I don't think you need to petition to the NRA, simply do what it takes to make you comfortable and get out and have fun.
Erik they are correct to contact the NRA and get the card as it is a no-no.
Per the NRA High Power Rule 3.10 Ground Cloth or Ground Pad—Ground cloths or ground pads may be used provided it is not constructed or used in a manner to provide artificial rest or support.
Per the NRA High Power Rule 3.10 Ground Cloth or Ground Pad—Ground cloths or ground pads may be used provided it is not constructed or used in a manner to provide artificial rest or support.
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
Taildrag15X said:
If they may be used, why does he need to contact NRA?
Erik Cortina said:
Poor Erik
Erik Cortina said:
You know why so let up........
Like I've said before Competitors should read the complete Rule Book not just Section 22 F-Class.
Per the NRA High Power Rule 3.10 Ground Cloth or Ground Pad—Ground cloths or ground pads may be used provided it is not constructed or used in a manner to provide artificial rest or support.
It's artificial rest or support that makes it a no-no, and no it's not only about the rifle but for the competitor as well, same as wearing leather pants.
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
Taildrag, if you ever go to Nationals (I know it's not a walk and paste, but you may find a real match interesting) you will see many guys using pillows and such as support. Cochran said on earlier post that he has directly asked referees at two National matches and one World Championship and all said it was ok.
To the OP, I don't know if you are shooting National events or simply club matches. Ask your line officer at your next match and see what he says. If he opposes to it, he will still let you shoot but don't keep score. You can still keep score on your own to see how you did and you can contact the NRA at that point.
To the OP, I don't know if you are shooting National events or simply club matches. Ask your line officer at your next match and see what he says. If he opposes to it, he will still let you shoot but don't keep score. You can still keep score on your own to see how you did and you can contact the NRA at that point.
Erik I'm not sure why you have to attack me personally or my competitive past.
I have close to 40 years of High Power experience, was a member of USAF Rifle Team, shot at Fort Bliss, Fort Sill, Fort Leonard Wood, Raton, Perry just to name a few. Have been there, done that and am certain no one used any pillows to snuggle or nap with on the line.
For someone who is a member of an elite Team I can't believe that you would suggest throwing the Rule Book away and just go with what some one said happened.
I have close to 40 years of High Power experience, was a member of USAF Rifle Team, shot at Fort Bliss, Fort Sill, Fort Leonard Wood, Raton, Perry just to name a few. Have been there, done that and am certain no one used any pillows to snuggle or nap with on the line.
For someone who is a member of an elite Team I can't believe that you would suggest throwing the Rule Book away and just go with what some one said happened.
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
Taildrag15X said:
That right there is my point. We are discussing F-Class. I did not say to throw the rule book away, I simply said to ask the range officer which will ultimately be the ones that decide whether it is ok to use or not.
Bottom line is, he should not listen to you, me, or anyone else for that matter, he should go and ask the people that will be in charge.
F-Class is High Power and Fulbore and is to be shot under those Rules is my point.
It is not it's own stand alone Discipline it shares Rules.
It is not it's own stand alone Discipline it shares Rules.
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
Taildrag15X said:
Yes, I get it, but it is shot differently, therefore rules can be interpreted and enforced differently.
Such is the case with free recoil, it is legal in F-Class but not in Sling!
;D
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