Extreme Anti-Gun Measure 114 on Oregon Ballot

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True and those who understandably interject their religious sentiments against abortion need to realize it is not universally opposed in the Christian world. My beef on this subject is Government control and the influencers of control.

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Religion aside, the baby has a right to life.

 

[Tesoro]

Religion aside, the baby has a right to life.

Define baby.

 

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Define baby.

An individual human lifeform with DNA, between conception and one year of age. While an individual has a right to make decisions about their body, they do not have the right to kill another, even if its growing inside of them.

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

I would also like to say that just because one claims to be Christian doesn't mean they are. No more so than me as a man can be woman, horse, pig.....or anything other than a man.

There are Christians and there are those that claim to be Christians yet are not.

 

[TTE]

but a woman's right to choose.

RE: The Government ..... that went out with the vax mandate

 

[drop_point]

I would also like to say that just because one claims to be Christian doesn't mean they are. No more so than me as a man can be woman, horse, pig.....or anything other than a man.

There are Christians and there are those that claim to be Christians yet are not.

The Bible is clear on the topic. A baby in the womb is killed, the person who kills it should be sentenced to death. Any "Christian" church with a position of support is not Christian.

 

[Tesoro]

The Bible is clear on the topic. A baby in the womb is killed, the person who kills it should be sentenced to death. Any "Christian" church with a position of support is not Christian.

Where major religious groups stand on abortion

Abortion is still a difficult, contentious and even unresolved issue for some religious groups.

www.pewresearch.org

 

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Where major religious groups stand on abortion

Abortion is still a difficult, contentious and even unresolved issue for some religious groups.

www.pewresearch.org

I didn't ask for help to figure out what organizations are ignoring the Bible. They aren't Christians when they blatantly ignore scripture. These aren't the only "woke" positions these churches take.

 

[bluealtered]

Gentlemen if we stray off on another subject other than firearms, we will be locked down.

Now having said that I find 22BRGUY's post about MSNBC's about face on firearms interesting.

Yes the people who wrote Oregon's M114 did a bad job and now have the whole nation watching to see what happens next since if they had pulled it off, it would certainly have traveled across the nation to every Dem run city in the country. Yet this network that has spent years blasting firearms ownership is now doing a complete about face, why?

 

[Tesoro]

True! And us Oregonians on this site dont need to be labeled as libs just because we live here or haven’t revolted and strung up our local politicians. We are the ones who didnt run away to Idaho and Montana with our tails between our legs.
Nothing new is going to happen with 114 until mid summer.

 

[JTEX]

I am beginning to have a new possible theory about the whole anti-gun agenda.
(Oh no, here we go again).
I have MSNBC as my home page and they are as left wing as they come and have
for years promoted the anti-gun agenda on a daily basis as strongly as possible.
Now, over the last six months or so, they have posted story after story after story
that lean toward the rationality of owning firearms and even going as far as advertising
new firearms in a very positive manner about the features of these new products and even articles about the positive features of older weapons.
They still over publicize and over sensationalize any negative firearm related stories they can find but I have to ask Why the positive change about firearms?
Then yesterday, there was a story about 2 republican political office holders from the
state of New Jersey that were shot dead within a couple of days of each other.
That would of course enrage one side while the other side would applaud.
The theory is, maybe since they haven't been able to disarm the American people fast
enough or create as many more "infringements" as they want, they are trying to encourage more lefties to arm up and then create a civil war in this country that could bring on martial law. Hope I'm WRONG!
I just know that the definition of the word "government" is mind control.

Or maybe.....they want stuff to start that way.....why are these Soros funded DAs refusing to incarcerate all these violent offenders???? Are they hoping for some vigilante action so they can clamp down???
I'm wondering the same thing about our open border.......

 

[bluealtered]

There are many avenues of thought here. One of them is a very simple word that I was taught at an early age and has guided me throughout my life, the word is "extrapolation". At that time it meant to follow to the logical conclusion the path you were about to take to reach your goal.

What we are seeing now is what started many years ago here in our nation. It isn't new and if you take the time to look at a little world history of the past on this planet you will see that it has been used world wide in many countries in the past.

To anyone who is now old and has been interested in world history and politics, this isn't new. It has been used world wide by those who choose to use their brain rather than kill half the population of their nation to reach their goal.

We are at this time simply seeing the next stage of this program, ... those who want power at any cost have taught our grandchildren, children, and adults to do as they are told and not to think for themselves before doing so.

This is the nicest way I can say this. No it's not to late to stop it, you simply have to quit typing and start DOING something.

 

[jds holler]

This is the nicest way I can say this. No it's not to late to stop it, you simply have to quit typing and start DOING something.

You're right. I think that I, (an Oregonian) am gonna go on-line to Bud's Gun Shop, and order me a handgun (with larger than ten round capacity), and get my name in the Q for background check approval.

At this point, about all I can do is support the system as it should be. I guess it may be like voting with my dollars.

Oh, and by the way, an actual "abortion tolerant Christian" isn't a critter that I've ever met. Maybe they hang out with the "meat eating rabbits". jd