Executive order to ban lead bullets

[Brians356]

Anyone notice the departing executive order to ban lead bullets (and lead sinkers) from all federal lands by 2020?

http://www.nevadashooters.com/showthread.php?t=76156
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[rebel]

I saw that. One of the last things done by the former Admin. Hopefully, this gets on someones radar that has a bit of sense.

 

[Brians356]

I saw that. One of the last things done by the former Admin. Hopefully, this gets on someones radar that has a bit of sense.

Uh, like the NRA's radar? NSSF's? RMEF's? NWF's?
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[Demi-human]

Ahh yes... the 'Egress Satchel Strike ' it couldn't just be over, could it?

 

[Demi-human]

"Well, I suppose that It would be fiscally responsible to begin preparations for the next shortage then." Did that sound ok? That's the one I'm going to use.

 

[Demi-human]

"Well, I suppose that It would be fiscally responsible to begin preparations for the next shortage then." Did that sound ok? That's the one I'm going to use.

Wrong site, wrong thread and poor humor. My experience is with waterfowl and I have always had to use steel or bithsmuth. Too much reading and Robitussin. Dont let this influenza riddled deviant ruin an important dialog. Lead works better than heavy-shot in my experiences. Also the action inwhich lead enters water as a pollutant seems to only work in pipes? Im not sure. There is lead in the ground but it is not in our water. (Here.)

 

[geo.ulrich]

I saw that. One of the last things done by the former Admin. Hopefully, this gets on someones radar that has a bit of sense.

Kind of like the itar regulations that were supposedly being changed BEFORE the election, all the sudden election done and no mention of anything being addressed. Guess they can bring it up in two years to get reelected.

 

[watercam]

One of our local ranges is built on BLM land and it opened for shooting as of 2/10/17. Musta worked out.

 

[Hopkins]

The waterfowl non toxic shot regs. were enacted with a lot of conjectural research results to support it. The industry didn't oppose much because it was a very profitable set of regulations for them. The price of steel shot and later non toxic alternatives have higher profit margins for manufacturers. Tried and true shotguns were suddenly a handicap with steel loads and needed to be replaced. We have a chance to hold this up but it will be a fight and will not be final.

 

[ranger140892]

Reversed

 

[wildfowler]

Non-toxic shot for waterfowl hunting is a good thing isn't it? Or wasn't it?

A single duck hunter may fire off 1000 shells per season pouring nearly 100 lbs of spent lead pellets into rice field. Ducks eat spent lead pellets while feeding in rice field, hawks and eagles eat a contaminated duck causing whatever harm doing so will cause?

I can see this above as a real problem well beyond any perceived problem of predatory animals or birds feeding on deer that was wounded with a lead bullet that would ever merit any need to end the use of lead bullets.

Anyway, I'm glad the ban is gone.

 

[JRS]

I shoot the Kent line of shot shells. The Tungsten Matrix is as dense as lead, and can safely be used in vintage shotguns. Good stuff

 

[people]

I just use lead.

 

[Brians356]

Non-toxic shot for waterfowl hunting is a good thing isn't it? Or wasn't it?

A single duck hunter may fire off 1000 shells per season pouring nearly 100 lbs of spent lead pellets into rice field. Ducks eat spent lead pellets while feeding in rice field, hawks and eagles eat a contaminated duck causing whatever harm doing so will cause?

I can see this above as a real problem well beyond any perceived problem of predatory animals or birds feeding on deer that was wounded with a lead bullet that would ever merit any need to end the use of lead bullets.

Anyway, I'm glad the ban is gone.

This action by Sec. Interior Zinke does not affect the decades-old ban on lead shot for waterfowl hunting. It only reverses the last-minute parting shot by the outgoing Secretary which would have phased out all lead - bullets, shot, and fishing sinkers - on federal lands by 2022.
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[OKyote73]

Thank God for a little 'common sense' kudos to Zinke

 

[mr45man]

A single duck hunter may fire off 1000 shells per season

LOL I fired 8 rounds this year.

 

[wildfowler]

LOL I fired 8 rounds this year.

Dern.

I admit, I am very fortunate to be able to hunt nearly every day of the season in Mississippi.

I knew that ban did not affect waterfowl and non-toxic shot. I was just trying to share my opinion of what I thought about it. Today, I don't feel undergunned when using high velocity steel shot, however if lead shot were legal I would definitely use it over anything else.

When steel shot was first mandated, it was awful. They have made much improvement in the quality of steel shot shells over the years.

 

[YEW PLUCKER]

Non-toxic shot for waterfowl hunting is a good thing isn't it? Or wasn't it?

A single duck hunter may fire off 1000 shells per season pouring nearly 100 lbs of spent lead pellets into rice field. Ducks eat spent lead pellets while feeding in rice field, hawks and eagles eat a contaminated duck causing whatever harm doing so will cause?

I can see this above as a real problem well beyond any perceived problem of predatory animals or birds feeding on deer that was wounded with a lead bullet that would ever merit any need to end the use of lead bullets.

Anyway, I'm glad the ban is gone.

A single duck hunter firing 1000 shells per season while hunting?

I gotta call hogwash on this one.

 

[wildfowler]

A single duck hunter firing 1000 shells per season while hunting?

I gotta call hogwash on this one.

Why?

 

[YEW PLUCKER]

Because nobody shoots that many ducks per season. Perhaps the hunter is a really bad shot, or, perhaps he uses the spray and pray method of duck hunting?

Again, while hunting, right? A thousand rounds of practice is admirable.