exact dies

[alinwa]

I must say though. I have 3 of the Harrell's PPC dies and they seem to work very well. Good semi-custom solution at a price that can't be beat. Was able to help the neighbor pretty quickly and get him going with his new PPC. Wasn't hard to find the die that worked with his chamber.

I have and will strongly advocate for Thee Harrell Bro's as the BEST option for the beginning FL resizer.

But only if you have a BR, a PPC or specific 308 variants unfortunately. (This is how they keep the price RIDICULOUSLY low....)

There are specific things the dies won't do, but for the most part, within their specified range they will give you the ability to reload your cases 50 times.

And shoot small aggs.

 

[alinwa]

HANG ON HANG ON HANG ON!!!!!!

HANG ON!

I got another reply.......

RE: reloading dies??






Hi Al


1. What caliber are you shooting.

2. Do you have a reamer print.

3. What brass are you shooting with.

4. Do you outside neck turn.

5. If yes, to what case neck wall thickness do you turn to.


I do not need fireformed cases from you.




HANG ON!!!

We might be onto something real here....... I WILL FIND OUT after the weekend.

 

[fguffey]

generally using custom or semi-custom dies that are close to the actual chamber dimensions.

Again; my dies have threats, my press has threads; Threads make it possible to adjust the length of the case from the shoulder of the case to the case head because my cases do not have head space.

At the time he was a bench rester, he did not have a clue what was going on when the ram was raised with a case in the shell holder. I had to explain to him the difference between the rifle he was shooting and the rifle reloaders were loading for; difference? The difference between the two rifles could be $2.000 +/- a few,

I have rifles that like anything; that does not mean I do not have to adjust the scope if I want holes in the center of the target.

F. Guffey

 

[alinwa]

Let me just state here that if these guys really DO UNDERSTAND truly custom full-length sizing and the problem is simply one of communication then THEY WILL BE WORTH THE 500 BUCKS!

I'm not gonna' say for everyone to go buy them, but IF THEY DO cut to my reamer print and if they're properly hardened and IF THEY DO give me the ability to adjust length and dimensional sizing then there is a place for them in this world.

STANDING BY

with bait on my breath

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Let me just state here that if these guys really DO UNDERSTAND truly custom full-length sizing and the problem is simply one of communication then THEY WILL BE WORTH THE 500 BUCKS!

I'm not gonna' say for everyone to go buy them, but IF THEY DO cut to my reamer print and if they're properly hardened and IF THEY DO give me the ability to adjust length and dimensional sizing then there is a place for them in this world.

STANDING BY

with bait on my breath

I agree. Wonder how they’ll export to the US and what will that cost? Is it pinfish or catfish charlie?

 

[jds holler]

I'm about to turn 62, and as a "crotchety old codger in training", I am watching this thread very closely.

I want to be able to be able to hold my own with you opinionated old bastards, and at the same time, demean and insult the snot-nosed whippersnappers.

I don't know where I'll land on the scale of dispicability when I'm done, but if I understand correctly, I'm not sposed to care. jd

 

[jimmymac]

Again; my dies have threats, my press has threads; Threads make it possible to adjust the length of the case from the shoulder of the case to the case head because my cases do not have head space.

At the time he was a bench rester, he did not have a clue what was going on when the ram was raised with a case in the shell holder. I had to explain to him the difference between the rifle he was shooting and the rifle reloaders were loading for; difference? The difference between the two rifles could be $2.000 +/- a few,

I have rifles that like anything; that does not mean I do not have to adjust the scope if I want holes in the center of the target.

F. Guffey

Again. I’m not talking about how to set a die up and down to achieve more or less sizing. My stuff has threads too. I’m talking about how a close fitting custom or semi-custom die is a better option than an off the shelf die. I like to minimally resize my brass for more than one reason. Your mileage may vary.

 

[alinwa]

........ Is it pinfish or catfish charlie?

don't laff.....

My wife's been acros't country for two weeks helping my kid have a baby.....

I can make ice and I once cooked an egg and ate it.....I can make perty good toast......

I been eatin' some chicken wings from ohhhhh, 2 days after she left cuz I'm shooting today, don't wanna' go get food....

I DOES has bait on my breath Hoss....

 

[fguffey]

Again. I’m not talking about how to set a die up and down to achieve more or less sizing.

I am the fan of cutting down on all that case travel when fired. I am one of the few reloaders that understands it is more important to control case travel in one rifle than another. And then? Someone should determine what adjusting the universal? sizing die accomplishes. I seem to be the only one that believe the 'one die-fits all' is designed to control the length of the case from the shoulder to the case head.

One day someone should start a thread that that covers measuring the length of the chamber from the shoulder to the bolt face. I can make that measurement 3 different ways without a head space gage, in thousandths.

F. Guffey

 

[Bc'z]

Again. I’m not talking about how to set a die up and down to achieve more or less sizing. My stuff has threads too. I’m talking about how a close fitting custom or semi-custom die is a better option than an off the shelf die. I like to minimally resize my brass for more than one reason. Your mileage may vary.

Because you now have a good example of your rifles chamber dimensions, which helps you load for that rifle alone with minimal brass movement.
I believe as guff is trying to say your cartridge doesn't have headspace, your rifle does.

 

[jimmymac]

Because you now have a good example of your rifles chamber dimensions, which helps you load for that rifle alone with minimal brass movement.

Absolutely. That's been my point all along. All it takes is several times fired brass out of the gun of your choice and it is off to one of the folks who can do the job. No need for a die that over works and over sizes brass.

This is nothing new for most here. I think what gets lost in the translation is that this doesn't necessarily apply to all. It may not be worth it on a factory gun, but it is absolutely worth it for a custom competition gun. Sometimes it's easy to forget that the audience here is quite varied and it isn't one size fits all.

I believe as guff is trying to say your cartridge doesn't have headspace, your rifle does.

Not going there! Enough said.

 

[fguffey]

It may not be worth it on a factory gun, but it is absolutely worth it for a custom competition gun.

And I wonder how a bench rester made it all they way to the firing range without being able to measure the length of the chamber from the shoulder to the bolt face and I do not know why the bench rester does not ask the builder of the bench rester rifle what the length of the chamber is from the shoulder to the bolt face.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2009/05/ken-brucklacher-sets-1000-yard-score-record-100-8x/

I measure the length of the chamber, I subtract clearance and then adjust the die, as opposed to the other option? Fire forming? Again, I form first and then fire.

F. Guffey

 

[fguffey]

I believe as guff is trying to say your cartridge doesn't have headspace, your rifle does.

After reloaders spend years proclaiming the case has head space and then they learn to read SAAMI, or they discover SAAMI and find SAAMI does not include the symbol for head space on their case drawing. One member called SAAMI and reported me.

Not going there! Enough said.

It is easy for me to say; "THE CASE DOES NOT HAVE HEAD SPACE"! And "The L.E. Wilson case gage has been with us for over 70 years, if the case had head space Wilson would have called the case gage a head space gage.


F. Guffey

 

[jimmymac]

Uncle!

 

[pirate ammo]

Uncle!

come on,,surrender is not an option,,

 

[fguffey]

Uncle!

Jimmymac, you are all right, thank you,

F. Guffey

 

[jds holler]

F. GUFFY (is it Frank perhaps??) TAKES THE ROUND!!

The case does not have head-space -- the chamber does.

Much as, my feet don't have extra room -- my shoes do.

Now, can we all quit being a bunch of dumb-asses and agree on this?? jd

 

[alinwa]

F. GUFFY (is it Frank perhaps??) TAKES THE ROUND!!

The case does not have head-space -- the chamber does.

Much as, my feet don't have extra room -- my shoes do.

Now, can we all quit being a bunch of dumb-asses and agree on this?? jd

What, are you unsane???

Call ME a dumb-ass will ya'!!

When my shoes are loose, when's I got's exter footspace I just STOMPS MY FEETS real hard and perty soon they're swoll up to fit the new shoon...... no more footspace.

chee'se


"footspace......"

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I have a hat with extra headspace. It blows off my dome going down the lake

 

[nmkid]

I don't know where I'll land on the scale of dispicability when I'm done, but if I understand correctly, I'm not sposed to care. jd

Anytime after 60 you can care if you want...Or not!