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[dmoran]

It's obvious that you still can't comprehend....

Very obvious.......

Once again none of his input has anything to do with the topic: 1000-yard positive compensation

 

[dmoran]

Luckily I didn't get a DQ for double digit ES on that one.

I forget, what was the ES to that one?
Donovan

 

[BOB LEE SWAGGER]

Put 20000 thousand on paper testing tuners most with two croney . So I have most on file .
As far as Alex I Care what he does I know what he did in the past. He will never fix that . I have a few on ignore also lol Larry

How many barrels did you go through to reach 20 million? Not to mention your super stamina to shoot 685 rounds a day for 80 years!

 

[Alex Wheeler]

The best tuner is the one that has the brain.

 

[Dos XX]

Do you guys that tune at 1000 retune if you are going to shoot a 600 yd match or if you were going to shoot a 600 yd match? In F Class around here we shoot 600 yds at local matches and 800, 900, and 1000 at major matches, what I call travel matches.

Not living in big sky country, it is hard to find a place to shoot 1000. I wish we had it. I do have a windy 600 available.

 

[johara1]

The over-whelming advantage of day break/sun up is when @tom does the bulk of his testing (sun down is more optimal at my range). When do you do your testing, and do you even test at 1000?

Not anymore we tried, even in the dark but they clamped down on that. can't shoot early or late too far to drive on one you can so you kind of have to stay close....... you are very lucky to be able to do it ...... Jim

 

[dkhunt14]

Very obvious.......

Once again none of his input has anything to do with the topic: 1000-yard positive compensation

I thought the topic was ES. Matt

 

[dmoran]

Not anymore we tried, even in the dark but they clamped down on that. can't shoot early or late too far to drive on one you can so you kind of have to stay close....... you are very lucky to be able to do it ...... Jim

You'd no doubt be better served talking to near by farmers or land owners, like many have/do.
A good spot or two may be more readily available then you think (that's what I did, and Tom did as well).
Mainly takes commitment with few honest excuses for not testing (other then laziness myself.....lol).
Donovan

 

[kountryboy2]

@tom thanks for sharing all your hard work with us. Rookie questions.
1- the +9 on the seating depth ladder test. Is that the depth that you load for matches?
2- does the +9 mean that you are in the lands that much from touch?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I live in a wind tunnel. Its brutal. I would be sitting in the dark waiting to see my target, and 9 out of ten times I wouldnt even waste the bullets. Just tear down and come another day. The beauty of 3 shot ladders is, even if they are big and ugly you can still find a winner in there. Least worst.
There is a very big difference between a 4" tune and a 2" tune. Either way once ES is under 20 stop looking at it.

 

[ngb1787]

I live in a wind tunnel. Its brutal. I would be sitting in the dark waiting to see my target, and 9 out of ten times I wouldnt even waste the bullets. Just tear down and come another day. The beauty of 3 shot ladders is, even if they are big and ugly you can still find a winner in there. Least worst.
There is a very big difference between a 4" tune and a 2" tune. Either way once ES is under 20 stop looking at it.

Agree!

 

[johara1]

You'd no doubt be better served talking to near by farmers or land owners, like many have/do.
A good spot or two may be more readily available then you think (that's what I did, and Tom did as well).
Mainly takes commitment with few honest excuses for not testing (other then laziness myself.....lol).
Donovan

I did have a place, when I was shoot XTC. an old railroad bed, but it got blocked off and flooded. it's not like around you, houses and roads and if the catch you without a back stop and the tree huggers are out to cause trouble different world around here. Jim

 

[dkhunt14]

I did have a place, when I was shoot XTC. an old railroad bed, but it got blocked off and flooded. it's not like around you, houses and roads and if the catch you without a back stop and the tree huggers are out to cause trouble different world around here. Jim

Use a suppressor and they won't even know. Lol Isn't there any strip mines around or big stone quarrys. I have a stone quarry I can go to if I want. Sometimes depending on how they lay and wind direction, it is a good wind block. It thought you were close to Reade range. Matches can be good test time. Matt

 

[Alex Wheeler]

A lot of guys will show up to Deep Creek Thursday night to shoot Friday morning as soon as you can see. They set up targets in the dark. Then reload at the range. Thats what I did because conditions are so bad where I live. I would think most ranges would let you do that if you have a practice day.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Do you guys that tune at 1000 retune if you are going to shoot a 600 yd match or if you were going to shoot a 600 yd match? In F Class around here we shoot 600 yds at local matches and 800, 900, and 1000 at major matches, what I call travel matches.

Not living in big sky country, it is hard to find a place to shoot 1000. I wish we had it. I do have a windy 600 available.

You need to tune at the distance. When I shot mid range my 1k tunes would work pretty good at 600. But if I tuned at 600 it would usually go vertical at 1k. Which makes sense given the way PC works

 

[Torge]

I have never relied on ES. In the last two years it has had nothing to to show for itself in a productive way unless it gets out of control. If single digit ES mattered that much the results of this SD test would not look like it does.

David

 

[johara1]

Use a suppressor and they won't even know. Lol Isn't there any strip mines around or big stone quarrys. I have a stone quarry I can go to if I want. Sometimes depending on how they lay and wind direction, it is a good wind block. It thought you were close to Reade range. Matches can be good test time. Matt

Matt, To get conditions like they test in and Reade Range are not used in the same sentence. Somebody complained about the shooting late at Reade and now they have hours limiting the use of it. Strip jobs are almost non existent after the last administration. Quarry's are back filled or being used locked up when not. Yep testing long would be at a match is about it...... Jim

 

[Raythemanroe]

I test at matches, when you have a season like mine it's all It is good for..


Ray

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I have never relied on ES. In the last two years it has had nothing to to show for itself in a productive way unless it gets out of control. If single digit ES mattered that much the results of this SD test would not look like it does.

David

.8" vertical and 13 ES Was that 1k?

 

[Torge]

1K