Erik Cortina Produces Informative Videos

[Rat Rifle]

What Eric has achieved in F Class is undeniable.
He has dipped His toe in Short Range Bench Rest.
Now I would like to see Him try His hand at 1,000 yard Bench Rest.

 

[urbanrifleman]

After I saw the video of him laughing about psyching out a 15 year old girl to beat her in a match, he was dead to me after that...

 

[davidjoe]

After I saw the video of him laughing about psyching out a 15 year old girl to beat her in a match, he was dead to me after that...

It’s not possible to psych out a female F-Class shooter, I have shot with them all, let alone a teen age one. Make no mistake, men are the stormtroopers in F-Class whose armor in the form of extra size or strength is useless to the “hand wave” of sensitivity to the conditions and respect for diligently doing their homework in loading. Women finish far above average, and I think what you heard was probably more of an inside joke and tongue in cheek commentary on how particularly well they do, than anything unsportsmanlike. Watch more, I think you’ll agree.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

What Eric has achieved in F Class is undeniable.
He has dipped His toe in Short Range Bench Rest.
Now I would like to see Him try His hand at 1,000 yard Bench Rest.

Id like to see that too. But theres no 1k BR in Tx. Really not much in the south west. And guys that like F-class shoot F-class and BR guys shoot BR. They are close but different enough. I have learned with my customers that theres very little cross over.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Id like to see that too. But theres no 1k BR in Tx. Really not much in the south west. And guys that like F-class shoot F-class and BR guys shoot BR. They are close but different enough. I have learned with my customers that theres very little cross over.

We have a good number of NBRSA Short Range Score Shooters in Texas, I know most, and cannot think of one that shoots any organized 1000 yard.

The way the two games are played is pretty far apart.

 

[danny]

Without a doubt Erik Cortina has done more to enhance the world of competitive shooting in the USA than anyone over the past 60 years in my opinion! Through the world of F-Class shooting Erik has brought through his development of his videos on YouTube an untold number of new shooters. I am an old XTC or NMC shooter having come up through the ranks shooting with USARADCOM rifle team and the AMU at Ft. Benning Ga. and as much as I hated to see that course of fire and participation decrease these past few years, it's a breath of fresh air to see the F-Class shooting world accepted so well! My hats off to Mr Cortina so please keep up your good work sir!

Well,
I'm a Highpower shooter and I'm not accepting F-Class, and I'm not "just saying".

Danny

 

[M14AMU]

As to accurate products, I've been shooting very accurate rifles most of my lifetime and as far as so-called 'tuners'.......school isn't quite out on that to date. Shooters are akin to aviators of which I know quite a lot about and if an aviator was told that a toilet commode could be mounted half-way out mid-wing of both wings that it would give 15 mph extra airspeed and a ROC and extra 400 fps....they would be mounted! Shooters are a bit of the same blood!!

 

[BoydAllen]

I would disagree with you. If you have above average IQ and listen with discernment to all of his video's you will catch him pulling back right as they get near any cutting edge info. This is especially true on the topic of how tuners work. You will catch him and his guests almost spilling the beans but pulling back. If you have ever interogated people like a police officer or someone in human intelligence you will spot it ever single time! It is not even subtle!

You have to be an insider to get the whole truth. It is not that any of these guys are evil they just are not truthful becaue they have a vested interest in holding their secrets for competitive advantage both in terms of business and in terms of competitive advantage. I do not even care really what I hate is that they act as if they are magnanimious(sp) and up front and honest when they are not. It goes to integrity and honesty. Better to say nothing than to lie. A lie of omission is still a lie.

Not everyone has the gift of discernment I would say it is a fairly uncommon which explains the state of the world. You will see this almost every place online. When Jeff Siewert is interviewd on Hornadys YouTube channel you can see him tip-toe around some subjects and answers because the truth would not go over well or he was warned by Hornady not to talk about some subjects.

It just depends on what level you are listening at and what your level of science and engineering is. I have thousands of books in my home and not a one of them in my collection is fiction. I get about 3 news books months.

I am not a fan of people urinating in my face and telling me it's raining! It has nothing to do with how good of a competitor you are or if your products are good it has to do if you are a liar or not. It has to do if you will ge a good mentor. It has to do with burning the bridge after you cross into the promised land!

This sight is full of gate keepers due to sponsors. I get threatened all the time to back off. It is only when I am telling the truth and it is not popular with a sponsor or I point out something innocently and again a site sponsor does not like it!

The real problem is these sorts want to be popular and praised. They want to be seen as industry leaders and experts. If they keep their mouth shut they will be obsecure nobodies. So they have to talk but say nothing or nothing new! Anyone that speaks the truth or points out that the emperor has no clothes must be purged.

I get purged often. Sponsors hate truth because it get's in the way of profit margins. A well educated consumer if not good for business and facts and sceince are hated. You would think this hobby and industry was sponsored Pfizer! LOL

Erik Cortina is a fantastic business man and competitor.

Do you own a tuner? Most of the competitors that I know that use them ( not all do) have managed to figure out a method that works for them, by trial and error. The main advantage is that they allow some tuning for those who must preload, and they broaden tuning nodes in the short range games. It seems to me that there are a lot of fellows out there that are under the impression that watching you tube videos can magically cover all the bases. IMO that is never going to be true. I have only played with tuners of various designs for about two and a half decades. Lately I have learned the most from discussions with a very sharp friend who does his own rifle work and who tests more than anyone that I know, with excellent equipment. It has bee interesting. I really like learning new stuff. I should also mention that successful shooters' methods for setting up and using tuners vary widely. Without naming names, I asked one Hall of Fame shooter how a friend of his, above him in the Hall of Fame, sets up his tuners. I was surprised when he told me that he machines the barrel , screws in on, and locks it down, and that his friend told him that that has improved the performance of every barrel he has done that with. Go figure. I had to smile. I guess I was looking for magic beans.

 

[M14AMU]

Do you own a tuner? Most of the competitors that I know that use them ( not all do) have managed to figure out a method that works for them, by trial and error. The main advantage is that they allow some tuning for those who must preload, and they broaden tuning nodes in the short range games. It seems to me that there are a lot of fellows out there that are under the impression that watching you tube videos can magically cover all the bases. IMO that is never going to be true. I have only played with tuners of various designs for about two and a half decades. Lately I have learned the most from discussions with a very sharp friend who does his own rifle work and who tests more than anyone that I know, with excellent equipment. It has bee interesting. I really like learning new stuff. I should also mention that successful shooters' methods for setting up and using tuners vary widely. Without naming names, I asked one Hall of Fame shooter how a friend of his, above him in the Hall of Fame, sets up his tuners. I was surprised when he told me that he machines the barrel , screws in on, and locks it down, and that his friend told him that that has improved the performance of every barrel he has done that with. Go figure. I had to smile. I guess I was looking for magic beans.

No. Being of average intelligence means these days mostly that I can find the way back home without running into anything which I can do! At present I'm already installing onto my barrel a suppressor, which I call a 'mule dick' and I don't need to add another blob! I'm satisfied with the performance thereof and as long as I obey the iron-clad rules of marksmanship...it does exactly which I desire it to do. Have a good day sir.

 

[danny]

It’s not possible to psych out a female F-Class shooter, I have shot with them all, let alone a teen age one. Make no mistake, men are the stormtroopers in F-Class whose armor in the form of extra size or strength is useless to the “hand wave” of sensitivity to the conditions and respect for diligently doing their homework in loading. Women finish far above average, and I think what you heard was probably more of an inside joke and tongue in cheek commentary on how particularly well they do, than anything unsportsmanlike. Watch more, I think you’ll agree.

Women are often better shooters because they often come largely uninformed and are willing to listen and work from good instruction (and they often get lots of willing help) , which many men want nothing to do with. Meanwhile, I'm down a few points jumping up and down asking about my help as the rest of the line is acting like "what guy jumping up and down asking for help that we aren't seeing?" lol

Danny

 

[nmkid]

After I saw the video of him laughing about psyching out a 15 year old girl to beat her in a match, he was dead to me after that...

Pretty evident you haven't met a well-disciplined young lady.

 

[gpoldblue]

Do you own a tuner? Most of the competitors that I know that use them ( not all do) have managed to figure out a method that works for them, by trial and error. The main advantage is that they allow some tuning for those who must preload, and they broaden tuning nodes in the short range games. It seems to me that there are a lot of fellows out there that are under the impression that watching you tube videos can magically cover all the bases. IMO that is never going to be true. I have only played with tuners of various designs for about two and a half decades. Lately I have learned the most from discussions with a very sharp friend who does his own rifle work and who tests more than anyone that I know, with excellent equipment. It has bee interesting. I really like learning new stuff. I should also mention that successful shooters' methods for setting up and using tuners vary widely. Without naming names, I asked one Hall of Fame shooter how a friend of his, above him in the Hall of Fame, sets up his tuners. I was surprised when he told me that he machines the barrel , screws in on, and locks it down, and that his friend told him that that has improved the performance of every barrel he has done that with. Go figure. I had to smile. I guess I was looking for magic beans.

There are many shooters jumping on the tuner wagon looking for "magic beans". If tuners were the magic then everyone with a tuner would finish in 1st place..... still.....the absolute most importance goes to flag reading and adapting.....Tiger Woods golf clubs will not make you Tiger Woods.....hard ,dedicated work is what wins.

 

[M14AMU]

There are many shooters jumping on the tuner wagon looking for "magic beans". If tuners were the magic then everyone with a tuner would finish in 1st place..... still.....the absolute most importance goes to flag reading and adapting.....Tiger Woods golf clubs will not make you Tiger Woods.....hard ,dedicated work is what wins.

AMEN!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

There are many shooters jumping on the tuner wagon looking for "magic beans". If tuners were the magic then everyone with a tuner would finish in 1st place..... still.....the absolute most importance goes to flag reading and adapting.....Tiger Woods golf clubs will not make you Tiger Woods.....hard ,dedicated work is what wins.

Oh, in some cases, you're right. But tune matters, even to the best shooters and likely even more so. But no way will a tuner fix a missed wind call. Neither will any method of tuning. A lot of people would be tickled pink with a .3 rifle and tune but in sr br, that's very likely good for dead last on the score sheet. You might beat one or two with wind reading but you're still very near last place with that. So, tune absolutely matters, a whole lot.

To me at least, it seems like more and more shooters are looking for "magic beans" with BC, rather than wind reading. There's a tradeoff in going down that road. A missed read still sux, regardless of bc though, too.

 

[AICS308]

Well,
I'm a Highpower shooter and I'm not accepting F-Class, and I'm not "just saying".

Danny

Danny, you sound like most of the high power shooters at my club. Seriously where does the dislike for FClass and FClass shooters come from? To me we all love shooting whatever the discipline we choose. I see the way FClass shooters are treated by the folks in charge at my range and wonder why the blatant un-fairness?

Why do you think that is? Opinions welcomed.

 

[danny]

Danny, you sound like most of the high power shooters at my club. Seriously where does the dislike for FClass and FClass shooters come from? To me we all love shooting whatever the discipline we choose. I see the way FClass shooters are treated by the folks in charge at my range and wonder why the blatant un-fairness?

Why do you think that is? Opinions welcomed.

F-Class is taking Highpower Rifle and reducing it or reversing it to something else undesireable to Highpower Rifle. F-Class is is the Trojan Horse that infiltrated our Highpower Rifle clubs and dedicated ranges, which will ultimately be the undoing of Highpower Rifle. Go start your own clubs and organizations to run your own events. I was going to say that if you looked around and REALLY got the real opinions of Highpower shooters, you might get the same opinion from them as I, but evidently, a vast majority of Highpower shooters have made their feelings clear.

Danny

 

[AICS308]

F-Class is taking Highpower Rifle and reducing it or reversing it to something else undesireable to Highpower Rifle. F-Class is is the Trojan Horse that infiltrated our Highpower Rifle clubs and dedicated ranges, which will ultimately be the undoing of Highpower Rifle. Go start your own clubs and organizations to run your own events. I was going to say that if you looked around and REALLY got the real opinions of Highpower shooters, you might get the same opinion from them as I, but evidently, a vast majority of Highpower shooters have made their feelings clear.

Danny

Apologies to the OP for the thread hijack. I would really like to continue the conversation to learn more about this problem. Maybe another thread for another day.

 

[davidjoe]

F-Class is taking Highpower Rifle and reducing it or reversing it to something else undesireable to Highpower Rifle. F-Class is is the Trojan Horse that infiltrated our Highpower Rifle clubs and dedicated ranges, which will ultimately be the undoing of Highpower Rifle. Go start your own clubs and organizations to run your own events. I was going to say that if you looked around and REALLY got the real opinions of Highpower shooters, you might get the same opinion from them as I, but evidently, a vast majority of Highpower shooters have made their feelings clear.

Danny

Danny, (threads don’t have a page limit so we can return to subject, but) for us civi’s that do not get paid to use guns and aren’t honing our skills in case we get called to defend the country, because for example, we are too old for that, how does our choice of shooting discipline actually threaten the long-term existence of Highpower?

I grant you that we in F-Class should move away from equating F-Class to “modified” Highpower, I have always been vocally uncomfortable with that. But are we displacing Highpower from events and range use? Is there a cap on Highpower? I welcome them in the matches I direct, it’s just not as popular as it once had been.

It seems to me that if left to the active numbers you have, your dues would be relatively huge and your matches small. There is actually a Highpower shooter that will come out in every F-Class shooter when it stops being so dang addictive and fun.

 

[ELR LVR]

I heard Erik say something on one video that when he loads his COAL is left a tat long. It reminded me years ago when I was still shooting Service Rifle in NMC that there was no 7.62 match ammo for the Leg matches...only 150 grain in brown box. That stuff was built for combat basically with a black colored goo around the lower portion of the bullet I guess supposedly making it water proof. It wasn't the best for accuracy running it through the M-14 but in two matches I shot using it I took my in-line seating tool and I reseated the bullet just 10/1000 downward and it shot great as the seal was broken in the neck of the case. If I were shooting matches today I'd do the same thing Erik does....leave long and reseat before match event! Brass will take a 'set' if loaded for a length of time and even though a sizing mandrel has been used....it'll blow neck tension to hades and back!!

Good advice!!!
Or HBN coat your bullets and not worry about it later