Eliminator bore cleaner

[dunraven]

anyone have any experience with this product. the claims are , that it is barrel-safe, and will remove copper. from what i see, and if the color of patches is any indicator, it seems to work better than sweets. ( i presume the blue color on the patches is copper).

 

[ShootDots]

It is VERY aggressive on copper... It is GOOD for "loose" carbon too.. However, "hard carbon" in the bore requires JB or Iosso paste..

 

[savageshooter86]

I liked it. Worked well

 

[GSRswapandslow]

best friend gave me all the sweets and butch's that he had stocked up after using Eliminator. We've since switch all of our rods and jags to their proof-positive units and will be using Eliminator. I had a factory Rem barrel with 7-8k rounds down it...that NEVER would come perfectly clean with butches or sweets...I ran eliminator down it after THINKING it was clean, only to have a lot of blue show up since neither was getting all of the carbon out to reveal the copper. This barrel went 2500rnds with NO cleaning done...and was shot suppressed at that.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Lots of snake oil out there, but Wipeout/Patchout, Boretech Eliminator, and KG12 are the real deals. I've gone to one of these three on all of my center fire cleaning work. I've also tested them and many others by weighing a bullet before and after soaking in cleaner for different lengths of time. The KG12 was the winner by a fair margin but doesn't show copper the same as most(blue) on a patch, so I use it in extremely fouled barrels first, then switch to more readable cleaners, such as Patchout and Eliminator. The best indicator of how clean you're getting the bore(or not) is a borescope. FWIW---Mike Ezell


I will add that none of them are great on carbon and you need to get the carbon out to expose the copper to the copper cleaners. I still have yet to find anything better for this than Ed's Red and a brush.

 

[BradY]

Eliminator will give you a false copper reading with a brass jag however. Use an ally jag for it.

Yes its a great copper and powder fouling solvent.

 

[savageshooter86]

+1 on Wipeout/Patchout too. I use that and Eliminator and also just recently am trying Montana Extreme Bore Solvent. Of course I use Iosso/JB in conjunction with the solvents to get stubborn carbon/prevent carbon ring from forming and my barrel is as clean as you can get it

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Eliminator will give you a false copper reading with a brass jag however. Use an ally jag for it.

Yes its a great copper and powder fouling solvent.

You're right about that. I've even got a blue reading from scrubbing on the outside of a barrel!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

+1 on Wipeout/Patchout too. I use that and Eliminator and also just recently am trying Montana Extreme Bore Solvent. Of course I use Iosso/JB in conjunction with the solvents to get stubborn carbon/prevent carbon ring from forming and my barrel is as clean as you can get it

The Montana Extreme works pretty well too. It's ammonia based and will run you out of the room. All the talk about ammonia based cleaners etching stainless prompted me to test for that, as well. I could find no sign of etching no matter how long a ss barrel stub was soaked in Sweets and Montana Extreme. BUT, and a big BUT, is that it severly pitted and rusted the stubs right at the "waterline" where air could get to it after a day or so...I don't remember the exact timeframe. Bottom line, I concluded that it stripped the oil from the metal and therefore promoted rapid oxidation in the presence of air but not by any chemical etching of the ss by ammonia. Again...FWIW.--Mike Ezell

 

[Patch700]

+1 on Wipeout/Patchout too. I use that and Eliminator and also just recently am trying Montana Extreme Bore Solvent. Of course I use Iosso/JB in conjunction with the solvents to get stubborn carbon/prevent carbon ring from forming and my barrel is as clean as you can get it

Bottom line, I concluded that it stripped the oil from the metal and therefore promoted rapid oxidation in the presence of air but not by any chemical etching of the ss by ammonia. Again...FWIW.--Mike Ezell

That tells me it's working... For my needs an "aggressive bore solvent" needs to get the job done in a relatively short period of time , if I wasn't concerned about time I would spend a week using Hoppes. If the solvent I'm using is stripping the bore of it's last traces of oil then that's my cue to finish up with the kroil etc.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

+1 on Wipeout/Patchout too. I use that and Eliminator and also just recently am trying Montana Extreme Bore Solvent. Of course I use Iosso/JB in conjunction with the solvents to get stubborn carbon/prevent carbon ring from forming and my barrel is as clean as you can get it

Bottom line, I concluded that it stripped the oil from the metal and therefore promoted rapid oxidation in the presence of air but not by any chemical etching of the ss by ammonia. Again...FWIW.--Mike Ezell

That tells me it's working... For my needs an "aggressive bore solvent" needs to get the job done in a relatively short period of time , if I wasn't concerned about time I would spend a week using Hoppes. If the solvent I'm using is stripping the bore of it's last traces of oil then that's my cue to finish up with the kroil etc.

Ok, but oil and copper are not the same thing. Brake cleaner will strip the oil, but won't phase copper.

 

[Patch700]

+1 on Wipeout/Patchout too. I use that and Eliminator and also just recently am trying Montana Extreme Bore Solvent. Of course I use Iosso/JB in conjunction with the solvents to get stubborn carbon/prevent carbon ring from forming and my barrel is as clean as you can get it

Bottom line, I concluded that it stripped the oil from the metal and therefore promoted rapid oxidation in the presence of air but not by any chemical etching of the ss by ammonia. Again...FWIW.--Mike Ezell

That tells me it's working... For my needs an "aggressive bore solvent" needs to get the job done in a relatively short period of time , if I wasn't concerned about time I would spend a week using Hoppes. If the solvent I'm using is stripping the bore of it's last traces of oil then that's my cue to finish up with the kroil etc.

Ok, but oil and copper are not the same thing. Brake cleaner will strip the oil, but won't phase copper.

Agreed... And in my opinion if it doesn't wreak like ammonia it won't be aggressive on copper lol.

That's just me , I'm no physicist but my experience has shown that things that are hard on the nose will usually be hard on other things... I'm ok with that lol.

 

[boiler_house7]

I switched to it a while back and thought a I had a barrel that was not showing much copper until I tried the eliminator, my patched where very blue before even brushing. My grouping back on target in three as previously, so I don't think I'm over cleaning. I like it
I was using there carbon solvent first but from what I've seen the eliminator is doing as good on carbon as well from the indication on the patches. I guess time will tell without borescoping.