Electronic Targets

[Bindi2]

I'm sure this has been addressed but, what happens when one of the microphones/sensors gets shot during a match?

Also, 2.4Ghz is a common unlicensed microwave band which is (starting to be less common) widely used by cellular carriers for transport back haul on cell sites. Do the systems have the ability to detect interference and/or to switch to different channels to avoid interfering with someone else already in the band? Or having someone interfere with the data being sent to the line? Low power directional antennas?

If the system is a Kongsberg the target is down. Some of the other Australian systems can loose a Micr and still operate. Have not seen a micr hit yet but cut cables yes also the control/computer box (that is expensive). Keep the control/computer below the mantlet. The targets need to be close read very close to the mantlet to protect the BOX. I also suggest that a cover of some sort be made/fitted over the BOX to protect from the heat. Cooler box material is good, shade cloth etc.
Remember with manual targets maintenance is being done with every patch not so with ETs so a good regular maintenance programme is required. Use removable aim marks for all ranges used they do get shot out quickly. When a hole appears in the coreflute rear glue a rubber patch on to cover it. Use same rubber as the sound box. Do the same to the sound box as well. Don't throw the old sound box rubber away it can be used as patches. The high DD or TDD foam used inside needs replacing when it developes a hole though this can be quite large when a rubber patch is used on the rear. Another trap is the cables between the targets MAKE SURE they can not get pinched anywhere at any time and are out of the way when people are walking and working in the pit. If the cable between No1 and No2 gets damaged you only have ONE TARGET LEFT TO WORK No1. Suggestion have a small pit crew to replace centres on the go, shot out ones or the next range ones. 25 shooters using 3 targets have just shot 3 ranges 7,8,900yds starting at 8.15 am finishing packed up and put away the whole range and went to BBQ lunch 1pm. 12 shots on each 10 to count. Day before we shot 3,5,600yds starting at 1.30pm breasted the bar just after 5.30pm leaving the range set for the next day.
Did I say I like ETs a great weekends shooting.

 

[daniel.chisholm]

I will be shooting in Blakely at AIM Sunday...

The only thing I will miss is watching conditions from other target hits. Sometimes its nice for a weather report. Matt

Hi Matt, hope you had fun and enjoyed the match this past weekend.... brrr it sure was cold though!

Did you notice on the bottom of your targetviewer's display, the row of smaller targets, which showed a live feed of the hit locations on neighboring targets?

 

[spclark]

Hi Matt, hope you had fun and enjoyed the match this past weekend.... brrr it sure was cold though!

Told 'ya it was gonna be a chilly day on the range, din't I?

Here's some files John Whidden sent along to me; he'd tried posting them over on the USRifleteams.com forum but the file size was a tad over their limit:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5nkw0xkhbjtaqyn/E_Target_LR_Match_Report.pdf?dl=0

The small displays of other targets is a worthwhile feature! Not having been there I can only speculate the usefulness of such a display depends greatly on the size and brightness of the particular display device a given shooter is using at the time as well as their visual acuity for the distance and resolution of that display.

I have enough trouble as it is trying to read my sight settings from time to time! Looking at my iPhone screen would be something I'd try to avoid, so a tablet or laptop display seems kinda mandatory....

 

[kiwial]

here is a screen shot i took on my kindle paper white from a couple weeks back during a final , you can see the row of targets across the bottom of the screen that indicates the last shot on the other targets that can also be zoomed in to show more detail if needed (in this case i had it zoomed out), a proper tablet with a bigger screen is better than a e-reader in this regard.

im really enjoying the electronic target system, kinda handy taking a screen shot at the end of the string to analyse later and being able to shoot non standard targets with little set-up -an example being 500 yd's is shot on the 600 yd target in NZ , but our club has loaded the tighter icfra dimensions into the server instead of making new target faces to the targets

 

[DT]

Will these setups measure group size as well as score?

 

[daniel.chisholm]

Will these setups measure group size as well as score?

That's up to the software provided by each e-target manufacturer.

Have a close look at the screenshot provided by kiwial in the previous post; you can see that the diagram includes gridlines, which are 1-MOA. Looking at that I can see that he held just over 1 MOA of vertical (I'd call it 1.1MOA if I were writing it into my shooting book), and had a horizontal spread of about 2.4MOA.

(BTW kiwial that looks like a pretty nicely-done shoot at 900y, well done! )

Having said that, there have been several requests made to me to have my targetviewer software be able to show group size, so it is like that this feature will be incorporated soon into an upcoming software release.

 

[chuckbuster243]

I will be shooting in Blakely at AIM Sunday...

The only thing I will miss is watching conditions from other target hits. Sometimes its nice for a weather report. Matt

Hi Matt, hope you had fun and enjoyed the match this past weekend.... brrr it sure was cold though!

Did you notice on the bottom of your targetviewer's display, the row of smaller targets, which showed a live feed of the hit locations on neighboring targets?

I did. I was a nice feature that I did watch. I would be cool get a large big screen tv and have all the targets shown on it to allow the " spectators" to see real time hits. Especially at large events. I really enjoyed the demo and hope to see it implemented at some point. Thanks, Matt

 

[LeoHuhta]

Guys
Im playing some catch up on this.
I've been busy hunting and have not stayed in touch with this intial request.
What system was used on the last couple of replys?
Thanks to everyone who has fed info to this request.
Leo

 

[daniel.chisholm]

Leo - hope you had a good hunt.

The screenshot, plus the discussion about looking at the shot positions on neighboring targets, are with respect to the Silver Mountain Targets system.

 

[243Mendoza]

For ET when using scopes for sights, can one see an aimpoint such as an 'x' on paper targets? Can such an aimpoint be shot out?

 

[Kakumba]

For ET when using scopes for sights, can one see an aimpoint such as an 'x' on paper targets? Can such an aimpoint be shot out?

I cant speak to any other systems, but with the Silver Mountain system, we use the same target face as before, so the aiming points are unchanged. They still get shot out, but compared to manual marking and patching the bullet holes, the center ring tends to last longer than before.

 

[6BRinNZ]

For ET when using scopes for sights, can one see an aimpoint such as an 'x' on paper targets? Can such an aimpoint be shot out?

Yes - some ranges here have an aim point 1.5 moa high for this reason.

 

[JohnKielly]

Yes - some ranges here have an aim point 1.5 moa high for this reason.

Wouldn't help if you used the lines to aim off.

 

[daniel.chisholm]

Yes - some ranges here have an aim point 1.5 moa high for this reason.

Wouldn't help if you used the lines to aim off.

Several differentways to address that. I have seen a picture from one range in NZ where they also provide vertical hash marks, at the standard ring spacings. This is invisible to TR shooters, so F and irons can shoot on the same target. I can post a photo in three days when I get home to my computer, if no one else does in the meantime.

Another way is to deliberately mount your targetface off centre, say, exactly two minutes low. Then tell your shooters to add 2 moa to their usual elevation. then aim at centre (which won't get shot out), the bullets will tear a hole two MOA above where they are aiming

 

[kiwial]

this is one way to off- set the aiming mark so scope shooters can still aim off, none of it can be seen through the irons

 

[daniel.chisholm]

kiwial, thanks, that's the photo I was thinking of and trying to describe.

 

[Bindi2]

Aiming off wont stop the target being shot out and remedial maintenance work having to be done it may only prolong it and make the repair larger. We use a large aiming mark (correct for distance) velcroed to the target frame then a small centre velcroed to that which is replaced regularly or as needed so the centre is always reasonable. Some shooters only want to aim at and shoot at the centre others aim at a corner of the target frame. Just cater for all.