Pretty much my experience- and believe me I gave them a fair chance to win me over in various chamberings early on. The exception to the rule is their .30 cal. 125 gr. TNT HP which does rather well in my .30 BR Hunter Class Score gun.Speer? I haven’t shot them since I started loading in the early 80’s.
I’ll take the green boxes over them any day of the week, or Berger or Nosler, or Hornady.
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