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Digital Logbook

A recent thread on another Forum about showing your "pet loads" got me to thinking. The thread featured several photos from various log books, which is the typical way many shooters keep track of what's what. Reading those posts made me glad that I don't keep a hand written log book.

Let us say your best recipe uses a Berger hybrid bullet. How about finding the best load recipe using a Berger VLD bullet during those times when the hybrid bullets are unobtainium? Where in the log book is that information? Hand written logbooks are not a good way to sort or search for data. The more obscure the data, the worse it gets.

Here is what I do:

When I make a batch of ammo, I start by producing a load log using M.S. Word. Each load has a serial number as well as a date. My .223 F/TR rifle uses logs starting with the number 1000; my 6mm BR load logs start with 600, and so on. This preliminary load-log serves as a guide during the loading process.

I use the previous log as a template and change the serial number, date, etc. I do not have to re-type all the information, only the new or different data, much of which is in the form of a table. I also write a short paragraph about why I am making a particular batch and mention any other factor(s) which might be important.

I copy part of the load-log data table and transfer it to a Photoshop file so I can quickly print ammo box labels. Again, this is a simple process once you have the first template made. I attach these labels to conventional plastic ammo boxes using clear packing tape.

At the range, I keep only the barest of hand written notes sufficient to keep me from confusing the data I'm recording. After I test the ammo, I go home where I scan and record every target group using On Target scoring software. I also extract muzzle velocity and standard deviation from the smart phone I use in conjunction with my chronograph. I transfer the scoring data from On Target into a M.S. Excel worksheet and add the chronograph data by hand along with a little bit of additional information like powder type and bullet weight.

Then I open the M.S. Word load-log again and I copy/paste important data from the On Target scoring software or from the Excel Worksheet. I often include a chart or two as well as a short narrative about the results. Finally, I print a copy of each load-log and these printed pages serve as the functional equivalent of a logbook. I keep these printed copies in my reloading room, but they are not optimum for searching and sorting.

Here's part of a load-log:



What is perfect for sorting, is an Excel Worksheet. In nearly every instance I sort the day's data by MOA and/or ATC (the same as mean radius) but I also sort by MV or SD or whatever parameter I happen to be testing. This set of numbers will reveal which combination shot best, but it is still hard (for me at least) to grasp the big picture from a matrix filled with a bunch of numbers.

Once the data is in Excel, it is a snap to turn numbers into a chart or graph. When I do load development, I nearly always graph charge-weight vs. MOA and ATC and sometimes "Height", which is the vertical deviation. There is nothing quite like a graphic to make this kind of data easy to understand.

Here is a sample chart:

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You can see that a load of 100% of max published is best, but only by a hair. The load of 104% of max is nearly as good and, of course, is associated with higher MV, so it is most likely the preferred load in this instance.

I save the day's Excel Worksheet in a special file folder for that gun using the date and load-log serial number as a file name. That way it's easy to find later on. When I'm done, I copy the worksheet for that day and append the data to a master file containing every group ever fired from that gun.

Here is part of a master file sorted by ATC:

[url=https://flic.kr/p/KkWMpr]

That master file is like gold. To use an odd example, ask me which powder provides the second best vertical dispersion with an 80gr Berger VLD bullet. In a matter of seconds, I can say that the vertical is .097" using Vihtavuori N-140, load-log serial #1040 on 1/16/2016. I can also see that the results are not quite as good as the .067" vertical dispersion shot with H-4198 that same day. Furthermore, by opening file #1040 I can tell you the neck tension, primer type, case capacity, and whatever else you might like to know. Try that with a hand-written logbook.

You can make your Excel Worksheet as fancy as you like. For example, I color code things like powder type, bullet type, and I mark good performance so that important factors are easy to spot. Use your imagination and fine-tune the look of your spread sheet as you get used to tracking your results.

All this sounds like a lot of trouble, and to some extent it is more work than a simple hand-written log book. But the digital information is so much more meaningful. I believe if you're going to chase the kind of precision you need to feel confident in a match, or if your goal is just to have fun shooting the smallest possible group at your local range on Sunday, you must not only gather data but you also need a record system which will let you study that data and make sense of it. In truth, once you have done a couple of load logs using Word and made a few worksheets and charts in Excel, it is not as much trouble as you might think. It sure beats the heck out of wasting time weight-sorting primers.
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I have tried a Digital log book. Bought it online and DL'd it. Shoulda got the disk, but didn't.. Fast forward 7 years. Computer has a melt down and I have to reload all my software.. The digital software place I was using is defunk, and I lost all my data.. Lucklily I have my load data marked on the cartridge box . Pulled out my old log book and entered what I have. Now I keep a paper copy..

I have Excel and it is great for crunching numbers.. I have built an extensive workbook for the archery club.. For my part I just don't see the need to build one for my reloads..
 
I did a simple system on my phone using Mobi DB Lite. It is not sophisticated like your solution. At this point, I am not sure if I like an electronic or paper version better. I might like electronic if I had a nicer solution like you have.

Danny
 
I did a simple system on my phone using Mobi DB Lite. It is not sophisticated like your solution. At this point, I am not sure if I like an electronic or paper version better. I might like electronic if I had a nicer solution like you have.

Danny
I have tried a Digital log book. Bought it online and DL'd it. Shoulda got the disk, but didn't.. Fast forward 7 years. Computer has a melt down and I have to reload all my software.. The digital software place I was using is defunk, and I lost all my data.. Lucklily I have my load data marked on the cartridge box . Pulled out my old log book and entered what I have. Now I keep a paper copy..

I have Excel and it is great for crunching numbers.. I have built an extensive workbook for the archery club.. For my part I just don't see the need to build one for my reloads..

Keep a back-up of your files/data on a thumbdrive. If your computor goes Tango Uniform you still have your data from years past. It also transfers from platforms (desktop PC to laptop) easily.
 
Mozella,

That's great. I'm just starting to reload and I was planning on starting my own reloading database. To take it a step further how cool would it be if there was an app or website where anyone could upload their favorite loads and the specs of their rifles and you could search it by rifle, barrel, caliber, bullet, powder, etc?
Another way besides thumbdrives to eliminate lost files is save (or sync) your database to the cloud. I use Dropbox and I can access it from any computer or even my phone.
I don't know if it would be possible to get a copy of your spreadsheet but that would probably save me a lot of time creating one. Thanks.
 
I keep my load data on my computer but I also keep a hard copy of it. I lost some of my earliest load data when I had a hard drive failure. I also lost a spreadsheet that took the data off my load records and calculated the exterior ballistics. (back when I was using a simple 3 DoF software that I wrote.)
 
I have been using excel spreadsheets since the early 2000s. Like the OP, I have a 4 digit number for each load. But unlike the OP, my first digit is a letter which designates the rifle/action. The second digit is a number or letter designating the barrel and bullet. The third and fourth digits are numbers designating a powder/primer/seating depth combination. So far, I haven't needed more than 99 combinations (and I hope I never do, LOL).
On the inside of the 50 round box lid is a hand written sticky with Load #, primer, powder, charge, CBTO, and MV.
 
I use FileMaker Pro. Have since it was a flat-file db (it's now relational). I like the auto-entry features and "value lists."

Both the date of entry and a serial number are automatically entered whenever I add a record. The editable "value lists" are simply lists of items (bullet manufacturer, specific powder type, primer manufacturer, bullet type, etc.

The value lists are good because they make sure that every data entry is properly typed. That makes searching fool-proof.

Since FMP is a proper database, it offers all kinds of flexibility in appearance, forms for entry, search, and display, formulas (inches to MOA) etc.

You can also contain a "container" which allows you to import scans of your targets, if you want.

I love Excel and in a former life used it extensively, and Word is great too. They work just fine.

But I prefer FMP, and I'm not a computer geek. It just seems very intuitive to me.
 
My "Master templates" for each round has all the standard information built in. I pull up the file folder, open the template (for confirmed load or load workup) fill in the "specific" data and save it using the bullet weight and type, powder weight and type as the file name. The load workup files use the bullet weight and type and the powder type for the name. I try to keep records of every load I have ever put together and the group size. That way I can see at a glance if I have tried the combination before. I dislike repeating failed loads.
 
Mozella,
Your logbook is very interesting and has lot's of data, but I'm a visual person and believe that a picture is worth a thousand words/numbers. Is there anywhere in your system a place where you store a picture of the actual target?

Thanks,
Joe
 
Are you actually starting in Word and not Excel? I do mine in Excel from the beginning based mostly on the sorting features. Most people that I know that use Excel do not seem to see just how powerful and flexible current versions are. You can do all your Word type and printing type items right from Excel, imbed pictures etc.

I too print the whole thing from time to time and fortunately can do it at work without wasting ink or paper. And I back it up on three other sources. I have already lost not only one deck top computer and all its data, but two external hard drives.

Of course those that have Data Base software can even do more manipulating of data if you want to go through the trouble to set it all up.

Bob
 
Are there any good target analysis programs? I'm transferring my F-Class plots to Shooting Lab (SL) which after much cajoling produces output like this. However, what to make of it is another matter.

Target1.jpg Target2.jpg

This is an overlay of three 20-round string targets with analysis of 59 shots. (I forgot to plot one shot.) It's rather approximate because I copied what I saw on the target from 600 yards onto plotting sheets and then copied that into SL. SL's target analysis isn't really designed for this. It wants you to use the actual target held over the computer monitor. This naturally, is not possible with a MR target. One issue is that SL wants to use actual hole diameters, not something scaled down. I have to set an artificially small bullet diameter (0.08") to keep the holes from completely filling the target.
 
It's definitely not a click-cut-n-paste type of program, but if you really want to go do some serious analysis on your groups, check out the 'shotGroups' package for the R statistical programming language. I would highly recommend reading the vignette provided.

They have a web app version of it, but its mainly as a demo - too much use in a given time period gets it shut down, etc. The technically inclined could run their own local version, though. To see some other variants of the web app, check the GitHub site...
 
I scan my aggregate targets in PDF format and the actual targets are kept with the load data in my 3 ring binders as well.
I like the digital records but I learned a long time ago to keep everything in hard copy too.
 
Mozella,

Would you possibly have templates of your log sheet? Also, how would you go about graphing your results?
I am not going to make this sound nice no matter, but xcel is a graphing software with a spreadsheet attached. The whole purpose of xcel is to graph results. My boss had a 5 page spreadsheet going one day and said this will make peoples eyes glazed over. I suggested a graph and she looked like a deer caught in a spotlight. So I created a line, a bar and a pie and she looked like she was having kittens. Now I know that came across as snobbish, and it wasn't meant to be.
 
I print out what I loaded and adjusted from QL then put it in a binder.
I also, will attach any of the target dots on the back and group sizes etc.
I do this for each rifle.
 

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