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Definition of an unfamiliar term?
- Thread starter Topwater
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I've got no problem making up terms to describe things you don't understand. I've got no problem with having a theory on why something (inexplicably) behaves the way it does. Not only do I have no problem with it, but I greatly appreciate people who have been shooting longer than me imparting their experience to me. I have to say this though...
When you have a theory, and someone like Litz takes that theory and does exhaustive ballistic testing on it, proving or disproving that theory, you ought to revise your opinion to reflect the evidence no matter how long you've held that opinion. We are all prone to confirmation bias. When we hear something that disagrees with our experience and perception we don't want to believe it. Really, no skin off my nose. I've been shooting for 40+ years, and I still learn new things all the time. I actually learn, because I try to remain open minded.
My experience is not a control group, and the data is as accurate as I can get, but I would never claim good enough to publish outside my own logs. When someone is actually running scientific tests, giving us answers, and changing accuracy in shooting across the whole spectrum I pay attention. You should too. To say there's no scientific component to accurate shooting is ridiculous. Elmer Keith gave us everything he did from testing, often using himself as a guinea pig doing fairly dangerous stuff...
There's nothing new. It's only a greater understanding. Firearms have a lot of things happening in a very short period of time, and really we're just now able to observe all those things, quantify them, and test theories. Or at least, no one has really done that and shared it with everyone before now.
I'm a gun nut and obsessed with accuracy. These are great times to live in if you're like me!
When you have a theory, and someone like Litz takes that theory and does exhaustive ballistic testing on it, proving or disproving that theory, you ought to revise your opinion to reflect the evidence no matter how long you've held that opinion. We are all prone to confirmation bias. When we hear something that disagrees with our experience and perception we don't want to believe it. Really, no skin off my nose. I've been shooting for 40+ years, and I still learn new things all the time. I actually learn, because I try to remain open minded.
My experience is not a control group, and the data is as accurate as I can get, but I would never claim good enough to publish outside my own logs. When someone is actually running scientific tests, giving us answers, and changing accuracy in shooting across the whole spectrum I pay attention. You should too. To say there's no scientific component to accurate shooting is ridiculous. Elmer Keith gave us everything he did from testing, often using himself as a guinea pig doing fairly dangerous stuff...
There's nothing new. It's only a greater understanding. Firearms have a lot of things happening in a very short period of time, and really we're just now able to observe all those things, quantify them, and test theories. Or at least, no one has really done that and shared it with everyone before now.
I'm a gun nut and obsessed with accuracy. These are great times to live in if you're like me!
shoot4fun
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I read all the posts on this thread (most all of each) and, quite frankly, some of them made my head hurt. I am not a mathematician nor an engineer and I really begin to lose interest when some of you try to impress each other with your knowledge. Don't get mad; I'm extremely glad you have that knowledge because it lets guys like me enjoy shooting long range simply by taking advantage of all the "stuff" you guys have done to make it easy for me.
I see that you folks say going to "sleep" is when the bullet has it's most perfect stabilization. I am really going to shake up the conversation now. I know many LR shooters who are using the phrase to identify the period of time between trans and sub sonic. But they are Millennials
I see that you folks say going to "sleep" is when the bullet has it's most perfect stabilization. I am really going to shake up the conversation now. I know many LR shooters who are using the phrase to identify the period of time between trans and sub sonic. But they are Millennials
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