correct primer choice VS less correct primer choice

[Nature Boy]

Nature Boy I would try a tenth more powder with the BR-4's!

Joe Salt

This was 30.5g of H4895 so I have room to give it a try

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Shawn, pretty obvious even to me, looking solid!

Mikecr, firing pins stop on primers, varying protrusion itself doesnt change how deep a primer is hit, what it does do is change effective firing pin fall. Meaning, if you reduce protrusion .010" you have increased effective pin fall .010". I would bet you will see the same effect fine tuning your pin fall.

 

[BenPerfected]

Instead of burning up barrels with endless combinations of components that vary with the weather, get an barrel tuner. Pick your favorite powder/primer combination and never change....except for a few clicks on the tuner in either direction depending on the the weather.
Ben

 

[Northridge]

Shawn, the paper doesnt lie. I think Tiger said that? What rifle is this one? Looking solid!

Mikecr, firing pins stop on primers, varying protrusion itself doesnt change how deep a primer is hit, what it does do is change effective firing pin fall. Meaning, if you reduce protrusion .010" you have increased effective pin fall .010".

Alex, this is a new platform & fresh personal Build for me to chase targets with, this is LR Neuvo no. 003 foam LRB wheeler McMillan 4" stock Lilja 4 groove 6mm Barrel & vortex golden Eagle optic at about 16.5 pounds with a heavy butt plate. had a few people I talked with by phone ask me how big the good ladder is the whole ladder was just over 3" but where the ladder stalled red and green its about 2" pretty solid and I've shot it again sense to finish up and it just keeps giving me small targets. I've had some excellent platforms in the past Last years Heavy Gun being the most special I would say & also a gun I tuned 90 percent at the same 800 yard distance & this gun shoots smaller period hands down I hope it unfolds at 1000 yards like my gun did last year if so you never know I cant wait. I actual have two fresh builds with advanced equipment and "know how" and they both are giving me smaller results than even last season. 1st gun handles very much like I know and is going to grind through condition well, but the 2nd build the LRN Neuvo gun required a different formula all together. Alex offers several fill options in his LRB stocks and I have handled all available versions but if a guy is looking for a very different response out of a stock a foam version would be worth a try. every version of these stocks has been different but all tunable the foam version being the most different but exciting to shoot behind.

Shawn Williams

 

[Northridge]

Instead of burning up barrels with endless combinations of components that vary with the weather, get an barrel tuner. Pick your favorite powder/primer combination and never change....except for a few clicks on the tuner in either direction depending on the the weather.
Ben

you shooting a Creedmoor? I am the Barrel tuner Lol

Shawn Williams

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Im looking forward to this season more than any one yet. Im looking for the most crooked barrel I can find for my rig

 

[Northridge]

Im looking forward to this season more than any one yet. Im looking for the most crooked barrel I can find for my rig

crooked barrels shoot wind better... I know the list is long with a lot of possibility im also excited to try my target 2 killer this season.

Shawn Williams

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Oh I forgot about that!

 

[Ga. Dawg]

Im looking forward to this season more than any one yet. Im looking for the most crooked barrel I can find for my rig

I see a sub 1” this year, these guns, knowledge, smith’s and equipment are outstanding!

Mike

 

[Northridge]

I see a sub 1” this year, these guns, knowledge, smith’s and equipment are outstanding!

Mike

that would be cool mike would it not, as good as our range can be she has only given up a couple. in attempting to reduce my agg size just maybe...

Shawn Williams

 

[dmoran]

Instead of burning up barrels with endless combinations of components that vary with the weather, get an barrel tuner. Pick your favorite powder/primer combination and never change....except for a few clicks on the tuner in either direction depending on the the weather.
Ben

So what do you do when your load-&-tune is not kicking everyone's butt?

IME a tuner is limited, to how good the load is. To advance the accuracy, the load has to be tuned better; hence the reason for testing and development. Settling on an accuracy level and never changing is not advancing accuracy in ones system - IMO.

I don't know Shawn real well, but I know him enough to say; advancing accuracy is a never ending quest for Shawn, and is why he's doing what he's doing, and pretty cool that he shared a small part of it here !.!.!

 

[savagedasher]

My best primers for my dashers with
H 4350 are wolf Tula and 205 m
All 3 give a ES in the single number

 

[BenPerfected]

I will try the Fed 205m

 

[savagedasher]

View attachment 1084443 Primers can make a difference, they can also fool ya.
This first picture is 300 yards " I choose to further test the Fed 205 at 550

Your say that distance will give different results
Thanks like say the third shot
will make the group smaller
I find the group will never get smaller then the second shot
I use two when testing shots

 

[tom]

I see a sub 1” this year, these guns, knowledge, smith’s and equipment are outstanding!

Mike

Some of the guys, like Leo, are already there!

 

[JFrank]

My best primers for my dashers with
H 4350 are wolf Tula and 205 m
All 3 give a ES in the single number

Your best primer would not necessarily be my best

 

[Northridge]

View attachment 1084444 The results were that the Fed 205 opened up and went vertical the 450s stacked like cordwood. Against my base load br-4
Point to remember is test at the distance you compete at.
North ridge covered even more ground with a primer ladder, I may implement that into my regime

I like the ambition, but I would not continue to bounce around on yardage you will chase your tail. pick a yardage that you intend to compete at all primers most all primers are tunable the goal is to streamline results sooner than later. often once you get a gun mostly cleaned up on one primer very often there will be another that just edges it out that's what your looking for not a complete re-build unless one just refuses to give respectable targets anywhere then completely rebuild if necessary. primers can be a slight fine tune to the good or a course chance to the bad by this point a guy is usually fine tuning you can not I repeat you can not do a fine adjust at multiple yardages, there is more to it than that. if your a position shooter with multiple target sets to deal with I Shawn Williams implement additional procedures
to draw the best out of multiple targets.

Shawn Williams

 

[Northridge]

Your best primer would not necessarily be my best

there is "not" a best primer that is the point, I shoot with some solid competition and even when we get guns going to a comparable level the data from A to Z can be completely different. we all bake cake different, or if your Tom Mousel you just cook the shit out of your Beef Steak...

Shawn Williams

 

[Northridge]

View attachment 1084443 Primers can make a difference, they can also fool ya.
This first picture is 300 yards " I choose to further test the Fed 205 at 550

Only thing I would suggest is not to shoot multiple dots sprinkled left and right if possible if shooting from bags, if a guy is not diligent the difference in the bag bind as you swing left and right will affect how a gun once to group. if you need multiple dots try sticking them vertically over one another less chance of changing bag bind the bind can cheat a group or primer test of its success.

Shawn Williams

 

[JFrank]

Only thing I would suggest is not to shoot multiple dots sprinkled left and right if possible if shooting from bags, if a guy is not diligent the difference in the bag bind as you swing left and right will affect how a gun once to group. if you need multiple dots try sticking them vertically over one another less chance of changing bag bind the bind can cheat a group or primer test of its success.

Shawn Williams

Thank you