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Convince me that I DON'T Need a 22-250 Ackley Improved or 22 Creedmoor

22 Creedmore or 22XC. I would go with a 22XC. No major fireforming required. Both should feed very reliably. JMHO. WD
 
Well to convince you, you don't need either. Think about all the money you can save, by the time you buy a rifle or even re-barrel, new dies and all the work to fire form brass. Don't even think about changing from your 223.

O heck with it, forget all that and get either one an have a blast ( pun intended)..
Saving money shooting.....bbwwwwwaaaaa
 
If you want to go fast.. go FAST.

How about a .22-284, or similar.

28”+ tube, Bartlein’s new heavy duty steel in a 10.5-9” twist progressive…

….at-or-nearly (gnarly) 4,000 fps with an 80-class .224.

I bet you could hit some really big numbers with the 88-95 grainers as well.

Might get 750-1,000 rounds of life if you shoot slow and use that new steel.
I had seen a 22-06 for sale on here.
But that was some time ago.
Price was fairly reasonable for the rifle.
I just couldn't afford to keep it in barrels though.
 
Here’s my buddies 12 yr old grandson shooting a rifle ( my 22 creed) for the first time. If you zoom in you can see the target. 90vld’s
 

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The 22-250 AI works fine through 5 round AICS pattern mags. Haven't tried it in a 10 rounder.
My current 22-250 AI is a Ruger RPR and it works fine in those mags, too.

As far as choosing between the two, I would certainly go with the 22-250 AI if I already had 22-250 brass on the shelf. The Ackley brass lasts a very, very long time if the primer pockets hold up.
 
I have a 22-6mmRem AI reamer and a pile of neck turned brass for it, picked it up in an auction. Not sure I’ll build one as I did do the 22 Creed and it’s quite capable for what I needed in a coyote rifle.
 
I've had fast twist 22-250AI for a bit now. No issues feeding from AICS mags but I've gone back to running floorplates for varmint work as its much easier top up the internal mag when needed on the fly.

Do the 22-250AI. They flat out work. And are easy to do. I love mine. Have a 13T for varmint work and 8T for target and LR Hunting.
 
Need is a strong word. You don't *need*.
Would it make your life better? Perhaps.
Personally, I'd practice more. At that distance, it's more wind than anything.
 
I've been spending a bit of time recently harassing an occasional wayward coyote. Usually I take a 223 Ackley Improved fast twist, and a 6x47 Lapua w/105 Amaxes for way out there shots. Shot distances have ranged from 400 to 1K plus (not successful at the latter).

I have a hankering to speed the velocity a bit on 75 grain or 80 grain Amaxes, so have been contemplating a 22-250 Ackley or 22 Creedmoor.

Has anyone gotten the 22-250 Ackley Improved to reliably feed from an AICS magaizine?

I did not have issues with feeding in the R700 BDL with the Ackley cartridge, but think that the gunsmith may have modified the action slightly.

Probably rebarrel the 700, or get a pre-fit for an Impact.

What would YOU do.
Lots of guys say why go 22-250 when the 223 will do the same at a few yards less. Then some guys say, why buy a 22-284 when a 22-250 will do the same at a few yards less. With that theory, a 223 may have a max effective range of 600 yards, the 22-250 maybe 1000 and the 22-284 another 200-400 yards on top of that. That's around a 600 yard range difference for that guy that thinks only a few yards more. Bottom line, build what you want. Every cartridge has a slight advantage over another whether it be barrel life or performance in smaller or bigger differences. The Ackleys will require fire forming brass, the Creedmoor won't. Same performance in both, less work with the CM. Maybe harder to find CM brass, not sure. Back to the slight advantage issue. My 22-250 AI is impressive. So do I need a 22-284, Nope, but it'll be my next .224 cartridge. Less barrel life but more performance. Speed kills more than just game. It's a small price to pay for what you enjoy doing. That's my take on it. I'd look at both the 22CM brass and reloading components and do the same with the 22-250. My choice would be the cheapest to load for. I enjoy all the work that goes into reloading so it's the cost effectiveness that means most to me when all other things are equal.
 
Consider fyour intended targets, create a velocity / trajectory chart for selected cartridges and consider cost of brass. Pretty hard to beat against any cartridge that uses a 223 case. Bullet weight and barrel twist are other decisions you will need to include.
 
Go for it!
I have two 22 creedmoor barrels. A 1-7 twist Rock for 95 SMKs and a proof carbon 1-8 twist for 90s and under. Both shoot pretty dang small. It’s like a laser to 1000, I only come up around 20-21 MOA off my 100 yd zero. I used Lapua 22-250 brass and it shot great fire forming.
I’ve never used it to hunt with yet. The next time I go out west I may take my proof barrel and finish it off on prairie dogs with some lighter bullets.
IMR 4451 is my powder for heavy’s.
 

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