Consensus on tuners?
- Thread starter Gil P.
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Fast14riot
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No intention at all in having anyone assume I am a "top guy" That is far from me totally. But, I have now owned several V2 E C tuners for quite awhile and spent hundreds of rounds down the bores of those rifles where they reside in lots of different conditions as I realized this is what is required to learn whether tuners work or not. I proved to myself they do work IF one spends time using one to figure out when to turn it how much to turn it and when to leave well enough alone. I do not plan to ever shoot another round from any of my rifles in a situation like a match in that I expect the best from that rifle. Bear in mind there is no free lunch. The tuner will not correct for anything other than an atmospheric conditional change.
JMayo
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Preload or not, adjusting it durring a match or not.... When getting a load worked up then slight tuner movements to get the best of that found good load... It's an improvement from just a barrel.
My score rifles have Ezell tuners.
My hunter has a different type that i got from Ronnie long.
I do pre load for all my rifles.
My score rifles have Ezell tuners.
My hunter has a different type that i got from Ronnie long.
I do pre load for all my rifles.
Tuners make sense to me for load development like you're saying.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can a tuner serve as a substitute for tuning seating depth?
That question has been raised by many and some say yes some say no. I have no proof of it being yes or no as I get seating depth out of the way first.
Have you ever tried working up a load without tuning your seating depth and only using the tuner?
Tim Singleton
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IME absolutely NOT!
The tuner gives me the opportunity to change the exit timing of the bullet when environmental changes have altered the timing I have chosen.
Todd
Todd
Right, but isn't that what seating depth does? But with the tuner you are eleminating the variable where your pressure will change as well as your bullet exit timing.
Which shooting sport to you play? I'm trying to get an idea if it will 1) save time in the reloading room and 2) if it's viable for PRS/NRL where there are no sighters.
Get one and try it yourself as this thread will turn into a shit show soon enough.
Yes it is viable for PRS as you will tune before going to the match. The tuner isn’t like seating depth. It tunes barrel harmonics.
Tim Singleton
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Yep
boltman13
Gold $$ Contributor
The more accuracy a type of shooting competition demands to be competitive the more a tuner can make a difference. I find in Smallbore Benchrest at 50 or 100 yards a tuner can keep my rifle's accuracy when going to different ranges and with different lots of ammunition, IF I can find the new tune quickly with sighters. Usually I can and still get my record shots off, since I mainly shoot BR for score. In SB F-Class the generous size of the 10 ring, 1" @ 100 yards makes it less of an issue and in Center Fire F-Class at 600 yards I don't use a tuner and never plan to. At 1,000 yards I don't but many of the best High Masters do. I am nowhere near their skill level and just adding a tuner to my rifle would not get me anywhere near their level.
I never have went this route due to my testing I personally feel seating depth and tuner are two different aspects of the tune. Some beg to differ and that is O K as we all have our opinions. I agree with the already
mentioned fact "get one and try it" with your testing.
Seating depth is of utmost importance, it's where I start load development, followed with powder.
The tuner isn't designed to overcome a poorly tuned load, but to aid in the rifle system to stay in tune.
I'm having my 1st installed, at least I think I am. Lol
I like to use my tuners with factory ammo to tune them the best I can get for PRS style matches. They do a very good job at that and seating depth is not changed in factory ammo.
Rimfire benchrest. Seating depth is checked and kept within a margin of error but not adjustable to us. It wouldn't matter because I would still go to the tuner because I have the option to do it mid card. Seating depth I would have to wait. Not having the luxury of unlimited sighters in PRS like benchrest is a problem. Saving time in the reloading room will be a loss in the beginning. The learning curve of when and how to go to the tuner will require some time and effort. I can't imagine not having the adjustment now if I need.
Todd
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