Component Storage Cabinet

[JRS]

It does state "not to exceed 50 pounds".

 

[Kyle Schultz]

Guys:

Many cities reference national/international fire codes. They can adopt various amendments but unless an exception is noted, the general code applies.

In the case of the city of Fort Worth, TX, they reference the International Fire Code of 2009. Because of file size limitations I can't attach the .pdf document itself but it is easy to Google.

Chapter 33 covers Explosives and Fireworks. Smokeless powder falls into Section 3306- Small Arms Ammunition. Residences fall into Group R occupancies.

Paragraph 3306.4.1 clearly states that the storage of more than 50 lbs of smokeless powder in Group R occupancies is prohibited. Less than 20# can be stored in the original containers. Quantities beyond 20# but less than 50# must be stored in wooden enclosures with a nominal thickness of 1".

Paragraph 3306.4.2 limits primers to 10,000.

HTH

 

[Jay Christopherson]

Guys:

Many cities reference national/international fire codes. They can adopt various amendments but unless an exception is noted, the general code applies.

In the case of the city of Fort Worth, TX, they reference the International Fire Code of 2009. Because of file size limitations I can't attach the .pdf document itself but it is easy to Google.

Chapter 33 covers Explosives and Fireworks. Smokeless powder falls into Section 3306- Small Arms Ammunition. Residences fall into Group R occupancies.

Paragraph 3306.4.1 clearly states that the storage of more than 50 lbs of smokeless powder in Group R occupancies is prohibited. Less than 20# can be stored in the original containers. Quantities beyond 20# but less than 50# must be stored in wooden enclosures with a nominal thickness of 1".

Paragraph 3306.4.2 limits primers to 10,000.

HTH

So, if I have a detached shop/garage/building that is not designated nor used for sleeping purposes (the definition of a Group R occupancy), then I can store as much as I like? Or, at least, more than 50#'s (not saying that I HAVE more than 50#'s, but for discussion purposes...)

I guess what I am asking, is that is the code being referenced only applicable to my house (or wherever it is I sleep)?

 

[JRS]

All fire departments have to comply with the NFPA. You can go to your local fire department and view the code book. It's usually in a big 3 ring binder. Local fire department code could actually limit the amount of powder to a lesser amount.

 

[waldo1979]

If you search for "fifty" in the link I posted its mentions that over 50 lbs is classified as an explosive. The laws are definitely worded fairly vaguely.

 

[bobo300]

That looks very nice . What are the overall dimensions? I need to make a ca I et too.

Bobo300

 

[waldo1979]

That looks very nice . What are the overall dimensions? I need to make a ca I et too.

Bobo300

26" Wx 14" D(+3/4" back) X 50" tall (+1" cherry top) carcass. I used Russian birch multi-ply which is hard to find and can be expensive. Regular Home Depot plywood has a tendency to delaminate if not edge banded.

11.5" spacing between shelves which is barely tall enough for my tallest container accurate 2230 8 lbs. If you wanted to double stack Hodgdon 1 lbs containers go 12.75".

If I was to do it again I'd make the top two shelves into 3 shelves w/ a middle support. That way I can stack bullets and primers easier.

 

[IdahoSharpshooter]

I fall more in love with Idaho every time I read a post like this...

 

[Chris Few]

Nice work Waldo. I live just north of you and have considered of doing something like that myself.

 

[amlevin]

My guess is that plywood burns a little slower than wood and therefore can be a little thinner. It also probably fragments differently. I like how the SAAMI guide recommends that one side be loosely adhered to allow pressure venting. The back of my cabinet is held on with nails and a small amount of wood glue.

The difference between a wood cabinet (magazine) and a metal cabinet is that wood will char on the outside and the rest of the wood will provide SOME insulation for the items inside. Metal transmits heat almost immediately.

One good way to store powder and primers is in an old refrigerator. Well insulated, if you are in a hot environment just set the thermostat for 50-60 degrees, refrigerators dehumidify the interior, and if you did have ignition the door would merely flop open without sending shrapnel all over the place.

I too live in WA State. Haven't ever been bothered by the Fire Dept although businesses are inspected annually (if not more) and will get cited if they have excess powder on hand or outside of "magazines".

As for the lack of 8# kegs on hand, most local shops cater to the "pound at a time" crowd so keeping 8 pounders on hand just cuts down on the variety they can stock.

 

[rkittine]

I use an old refrigerator for the same reasons listed above. Most appliance stores pick up and take away old refrigerators when selling and delivering new ones. They then sell, scrap or give them away. I have been able to get them for as little as $0 and never over $75.

I have had not problems finding usable ones that were replaced because they were cosmetically ugly or out of date and without a locking hasp, they will pop open if there is a buildup of pressure. You also get the added advantage of extra ice for those weekend summer parties. Or that Thanksgiving Turkey that will not fit in your kitchen refrigerator.

Bob

 

[Shaggy357]

My heaviest powder bottle is only 8 lbs. Well under the 25 lb requirement for a cabinet....

Sounds like too many CA liberals moving to WA. Sounds like gestapo activity to me.....

 

[Rsadams]

As stated before, putting the drywall inside and making sure it can vent pressure will save you.. That's why when I see people storing in ammo cans I cringe... Nice work very nice looking... As per the drywall , it works. Most gun safes have it inside for fire protection...

 

[savagedasher]

Powder burns In a container it explodeds The last place I want it is in a container of metal . Larry