Classification question.

[pirate ammo]

Many people get classified higher than they can perform on other ranges often and so they start traveling to challenge themselves.

my card says junior pig killer

 

[corning]

Many people get classified higher than they can perform on other ranges often and so they start traveling to challenge themselves.

Nah, I have performed at the level of my classification (HM Long Range & EX Smallbore Prone), and above. I'm happy!

 

[Drolds72]

Ok. Let me ask this then. I just shot my first 1000 yard this weekend, in let’s say sporting conditions. Downpour yesterday and gusty wind today. Is there a protocol to NOT have it turned in? I won’t do that, but just curious.

 

[Drolds72]

Nah, I have performed at the level of my classification, and above. I'm happy!

This was the 5th range I have shot on, and every one was very different, from terrain to which flags are lying.

 

[Immike]

Ok. Let me ask this then. I just shot my first 1000 yard this weekend, in let’s say sporting conditions. Downpour yesterday and gusty wind today. Is there a protocol to NOT have it turned in? I won’t do that, but just curious.

Always turn in your score card. Your integrity as a shooter is your reward first and foremost.

 

[Liven The Dream]

Incorrect. A shooter may not enter a match.as a High Master unless he or she is in fact classified as such.

In regards to all the consternation about the lack of classification...the NRA Comp division is slow as shit. It almost certainly had nothing to do with your match director.

If you want fast classification changes and good data, go shoot Trap...

...otherwise, get used to it, keep your own records carefully, and do what you feel is right until you DO have a card. Except HM. Gotta have that one.

19.8 It is possible in a Team Match that a Sharpshooter can and will compete as High Master in a team .

 

[Snuggie]

Drolds72. If you enter a match as unclassified you are jumbled in with everyone up to Master. If you shoot a score higher than the others, Master included, you still win in that class. Keep shooting and kindly ask your MD if your scores are being turned in. Assuming that it is an NRA registered match.

 

[Drolds72]

Drolds72. If you enter a match as unclassified you are jumbled in with everyone up to Master. If you shoot a score higher than the others, Master included, you still win in that class. Keep shooting and kindly ask your MD if your scores are being turned in. Assuming that it is an NRA registered match.

Yep! I actually got high score in a match. Just gonna keep shooting and continue to try and figure out the letoffs!

 

[Ringostar]

Team scores also count into your classification. I know someone that is a long range high master, and has never shot long range individual.

 

[creedfan]

ok say i just shot my second match and now I have a 120 for record in the books how long will it take the NRA to send me a classification card

 

[Ringostar]

It can vary. When I got my mid range high master, it was only about 2 weeks. It also depends on how quickly the match director gets scores turned in.

 

[natdscott]

19.8 It is possible in a Team Match that a Sharpshooter can and will compete as High Master in a team .

Nice job finding and/or knowing the technical exception.

Since there is one match in the entire country, fired on a single day at the Nationals, wherein a Midrange Sharpshooter might enter and compete as a High Master...

Whatever.

 

[Immike]

Team scores also count into your classification. I know someone that is a long range high master, and has never shot long range individual.

I wasn’t aware that coached shooting scores counted towards classification... they shouldn’t to be fair...if coaching isn’t allowed during individual then that doesn’t make any sense.

 

[Rope2horns]

I wasn’t aware that coached shooting scores counted towards classification... they shouldn’t to be fair...if coaching isn’t allowed during individual then that doesn’t make any sense.

I could be wrong..(very high probability)...But I think teams are broke down into HM,M and so on....If everyone on the team are HM's the one SS will be lumped in as the team is considered HM.

http://www.bergerbullets.com/SW_Nationals/2015-swn-f-open-team-agg.pdf

Here is a good example..this is from the SWN 2015..if you look by each teams overall score it will give their classification...then if you look at the classification of each member it will determine the overall classification of the team...clear as mud??? lol.....Hopefully someone will come along and explain it correctly and/or better than me.

 

[Immike]

I could be wrong..(very high probability)...But I think teams are broke down into HM,M and so on....If everyone on the team are HM's the one SS will be lumped in as the team is considered HM.

http://www.bergerbullets.com/SW_Nationals/2015-swn-f-open-team-agg.pdf

Here is a good example..this is from the SWN 2015..if you look by each teams overall score it will give their classification...then if you look at the classification of each member it will determine the overall classification of the team...clear as mud??? lol.....Hopefully someone will come along and explain it correctly and/or better than me.

He’s talking about individual classification through team scores turned in.

Yes, each team is classified by average as in the rules for ranking.

 

[Rope2horns]

Mike, I think that is where the confusion is....19.8 It is possible in a Team Match that a Sharpshooter can and will compete as High Master in a team .....it doesn't say that will be your classification it says you "will compete" as Hm in a team setting is my understanding....Maybe I'm confused on my interpretation of the rule.

 

[Immike]

Mike, I think that is where the confusion is....19.8 It is possible in a Team Match that a Sharpshooter can and will compete as High Master in a team .....it doesn't say that will be your classification it says you "will compete" as Hm in a team setting is my understanding....Maybe I'm confused on my interpretation of the rule.

I’m just trying to figure out what Keith said (Ringostar)... that individual ranking was possible through team shooting. I’ve never heard this before

 

[swd]

ok say i just shot my second match and now I have a 120 for record in the books how long will it take the NRA to send me a classification card

Mine came in about 5 weeks from a match I shot in March.

 

[DR_2297]

For TEAM classification see NRA HP Rule Book 19.12. Each firing members classification is given a weight (5,4,3,2,1). All of the weights are added and then divided by #of firing members. The average is then compared to the weights and the team classification is whatever the average weight is. So 3 HM + 1 SS = 17/4 = 4.25. 4.25 < 4.5 so team is a Master for team classification.

 

[Ringostar]

Yes the team is given a classification. In a registered team match, the scores are turned in for records. The NRA also takes the individual shooters score and applies it toward that individuals classification. We learned this about 5 years ago. We used to shoot several team matches each year. One shooter would have his wife shoot his gear while he coached the team. Her coached team scores got her a long range HM card. She had never shot long range individual prior to this.