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Christensen Arms Ridgeline FFT Series ???

GAnderson

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Looking for feedback on the Ridgeline series of the Christensen Arms rifle...specifically the FFT version with the Carbon barrel. They advertise 1moa...I have never owned a rifle with a carbon wrapped barrel and would like to find some first hand knowledge of those that might own one. Is the accuracy as good as conventional barrels? Does the lighter barrel handle longer strings of shots better? Overall what do you think of these rifles?

Thanks,
Gene
 
I owned a Christensen (9 years ago) and it was terrible. The carbon barrel that it came with was junk. It actually blew out a chunk of the rifling. I have no idea who makes their barrels for them now, but have a search and you'll find a lot of unhappy customers.
Worse than the rifle was the customer service, who didn't care. They weren't interested at all.
You might get lucky and get a great one. But more than likely you'll get a 'meh' one. Good luck!
 
Yes, the barrels on the Christensen rifles until about 3 years ago were junk. I was selling them at a retail counter and experienced some unhappy customers. With that said, I know about 3 or 4 guys that i shoot with on 600 and 1000 yds ranges. They seem to be happy.
 
I owned a Christensen (9 years ago) and it was terrible. The carbon barrel that it came with was junk. It actually blew out a chunk of the rifling. I have no idea who makes their barrels for them now, but have a search and you'll find a lot of unhappy customers.
Worse than the rifle was the customer service, who didn't care. They weren't interested at all.
You might get lucky and get a great one. But more than likely you'll get a 'meh' one. Good luck!
Wow! I am glad I asked. I really was looking hard at the Ridgeline FFT. You don't hear or see where anyone is talking them up and I would think for the money they would be top notch. Thanks for the insight and I will do a little research on them.

Gene
 
Yes, the barrels on the Christensen rifles until about 3 years ago were junk. I was selling them at a retail counter and experienced some unhappy customers. With that said, I know about 3 or 4 guys that i shoot with on 600 and 1000 yds ranges. They seem to be happy.
Thanks for the information. Maybe they got things straightened out...I will do some more research and see what I can find before dropping $$$ on them.

Gene
 
Hi Gene. This is the thread for you! Only 6 months old.

Summary; buy a Tikka
 
I think you will find that people who have friends of friends have sometimes had a bad experience. I have the Mesa in 6.5 PRC. Not the carbon barrel but the steel barrel version. It shoots fantastic. Not 1/4 to 1/2 MOA like my F Class competition rifles but sub MOA. I had heard that some of the carbon barrels did not shoot well on any action they were screwed on to. Not sure what the brands were or if they fixed the problems with them. But rumor has it that they are better these days. I have no first hand experience with them.

That said, I ordered a "competition" Remington stainless steel target action a while back. It had maybe 5 percent contact on one lug and no primary extraction. Took me a lot of work and a money to get that action to the point that I could use it.
 
Hi Gene. This is the thread for you! Only 6 months old.

Summary; buy a Tikka
Good read...thanks. I was looking at Tikka and Bergera also...then came across the Christensen line of rifles and was kind of leaning towards it because of the CF barrel. Like I stated, I've never had any experience with CF barrels and was just wondering if it offered anything more other than weight reduction than a conventional Stainless or Chrome Molly barrel. So far I have read a lot that is making me shy away from the Christensen...probably go back to the Tikka or Bergera. The only reason for either the Bergera or the Christensen would be for the Rem 700 footprint versus the Tikka, but it's hard to not go with the Tikka and it's track record.
Thanks again.

Gene
 
I got a little Scout in 223
Wts 3lb w/ 10 in the mag

Will single hole @100yds-
I did some reloading work yo get it there.. it wears a suppressor 98% of the time & a thermal 59% of the time..
I did change out the trigger to a B&A.
I like the carbon fiber 16” barrel, carbon fiber stock- which has pillars & is actually bedded to the action from the factory-
 
I own two Christensen Rifles an MPR that I have customized into a 6 Dasher and a Ridgeline FFT in 7 PRC.

They both have been accurate out of the box with the 7 PRC giving me issues mainly due to the component supply shortage when I purchased it. I had to run factory Hornady ammo through it (to collect the brass) and it was over pressure and I was losing brass in one firing. I don't shoot factory ammunition in general at all and the first time I shot a brand new rifle with factory ammo it left me confused if it was the rifle or the ammo? Turns out it was the ammo. I also figured out I needed to keep the hard carbon ring formation at bay.

Regardless, with my reloads I can shoot sub MOA with my FFT. It's probably a 3/4 MOA barrel. I don't know how it shoots factory ammo as I won't/don't shoot it. I have had loads that shoot better with unobtainium powders (RL26) but I'm happy with the current hunting load with H1000. I can't say whether this carbon barrel handles longer strings of fire better than a steel barrel. That is a difficult answer, comparing to a ultra light small pencil barrel, my guess is the carbon barrel is more stable. Comparing to a matching contour steel bull barrel that doesn't weigh the same, the steel is going to be more stable hands down. I don't think a carbon barrel is going to dissipate heat any better than a steel barrel.

I've taken two elk with my FFT the last two years (one at 350yds and one at 30yds). It checked my requirements for a light mountain rifle. My last hunting rig was a tuned Ruger M77 stainless with a laminate stock. The FFT is a joy to pack around the mountain when hunting compared to my old tank. The muzzle brake makes shooting the 7 PRC manageable but with this ultralight rig you aren't going to be spotting impacts.

The Triggertech trigger is manageable. It definitely isn't a match grade trigger but it can be tuned down in the ballpark of 2.5 lbs. Maybe someday I will upgrade it on my MPR but for now I'm fine using it as is. It is good enough for a hunting trigger on my 7 PRC.

The stock on the FFT is superlight and rigid. The stock internals are foam so adding attachments to it isn't as easy as other stock materials. I put a short picatinny rail on the fore end and just used a Tee nut with some JB weld to help hold it in place for the second screw to mount the rail. They have a video discussing how to do this online. I wish it had an adjustable comb and length of pull. That of course would change the weight of the stock. Only the recoil lug is bedded and it has pillars but no bedding for the action. I probably will bed the action one of these days and it would be interesting to find out how that affects the rifles accuracy.

The action is just a Remington 700 clone. The bolt has a mini m16 extractor and one or two ejectors depending on the size of the bolt face. I did have an issue with my MPR with cases that were extracting up and hitting the scope mount and not clearing the gun. I filed off the upper corner of the extractor to change the ejection angle and it is been good since.

My experience with Christensen customer service has been very good. When I was questioning pressure issues with my 7 PRC, they didn't hesitate to sent a return label and requested I send in the rifle. I actually never did because I determined the ammunition was my issue. When I had extraction issues with my MPR they sent me a new extractor, pin, and spring no questions asked. Ultimately I didn't replace them as the modified extractor solved my issue so now I have backups in the parts bin. They have been very responsive to my inquires.

Whether this rifle is worth the price of admission? I don't know, only you can determine if the features to cost equation fits your budget. I've had some really inexpensive Savages that shoot incredibly well. How valuable is an ultralight rifle to you? What is your intended use for the rifle?

Cheers,
Toby
 
Invest in a custom, you won't regret it. Even if it's a Remington action.

I got a little Scout in 223
Wts 3lb w/ 10 in the mag

Will single hole @100yds-
I did some reloading work yo get it there.. it wears a suppressor 98% of the time & a thermal 59% of the time..
I did change out the trigger to a B&A.
I like the carbon fiber 16” barrel, carbon fiber stock- which has pillars & is actually bedded to the action from the factory-
I was looking at the 20" barrel in the Ridgeline FFT and would be running it suppressed. I don't really want any longer of a barrel than that because of the suppressor. Bergera makes a 20" barrel rifle but it isn't carbon fiber and I thought about the Tikka but they are 22.4" barrels. I'm on the fence...so much negative issues in the beginning with their rifles but it seems as though they might have things a little better...but still a lot of complaints of heavy/hard bolt lift and still needing to spend a lot of time getting a load that wants to shoot. Not in a hurry so I have some time to keep looking at things.

Gene
 
I own two Christensen Rifles an MPR that I have customized into a 6 Dasher and a Ridgeline FFT in 7 PRC.

They both have been accurate out of the box with the 7 PRC giving me issues mainly due to the component supply shortage when I purchased it. I had to run factory Hornady ammo through it (to collect the brass) and it was over pressure and I was losing brass in one firing. I don't shoot factory ammunition in general at all and the first time I shot a brand new rifle with factory ammo it left me confused if it was the rifle or the ammo? Turns out it was the ammo. I also figured out I needed to keep the hard carbon ring formation at bay.

Regardless, with my reloads I can shoot sub MOA with my FFT. It's probably a 3/4 MOA barrel. I don't know how it shoots factory ammo as I won't/don't shoot it. I have had loads that shoot better with unobtainium powders (RL26) but I'm happy with the current hunting load with H1000. I can't say whether this carbon barrel handles longer strings of fire better than a steel barrel. That is a difficult answer, comparing to a ultra light small pencil barrel, my guess is the carbon barrel is more stable. Comparing to a matching contour steel bull barrel that doesn't weigh the same, the steel is going to be more stable hands down. I don't think a carbon barrel is going to dissipate heat any better than a steel barrel.

I've taken two elk with my FFT the last two years (one at 350yds and one at 30yds). It checked my requirements for a light mountain rifle. My last hunting rig was a tuned Ruger M77 stainless with a laminate stock. The FFT is a joy to pack around the mountain when hunting compared to my old tank. The muzzle brake makes shooting the 7 PRC manageable but with this ultralight rig you aren't going to be spotting impacts.

The Triggertech trigger is manageable. It definitely isn't a match grade trigger but it can be tuned down in the ballpark of 2.5 lbs. Maybe someday I will upgrade it on my MPR but for now I'm fine using it as is. It is good enough for a hunting trigger on my 7 PRC.

The stock on the FFT is superlight and rigid. The stock internals are foam so adding attachments to it isn't as easy as other stock materials. I put a short picatinny rail on the fore end and just used a Tee nut with some JB weld to help hold it in place for the second screw to mount the rail. They have a video discussing how to do this online. I wish it had an adjustable comb and length of pull. That of course would change the weight of the stock. Only the recoil lug is bedded and it has pillars but no bedding for the action. I probably will bed the action one of these days and it would be interesting to find out how that affects the rifles accuracy.

The action is just a Remington 700 clone. The bolt has a mini m16 extractor and one or two ejectors depending on the size of the bolt face. I did have an issue with my MPR with cases that were extracting up and hitting the scope mount and not clearing the gun. I filed off the upper corner of the extractor to change the ejection angle and it is been good since.

My experience with Christensen customer service has been very good. When I was questioning pressure issues with my 7 PRC, they didn't hesitate to sent a return label and requested I send in the rifle. I actually never did because I determined the ammunition was my issue. When I had extraction issues with my MPR they sent me a new extractor, pin, and spring no questions asked. Ultimately I didn't replace them as the modified extractor solved my issue so now I have backups in the parts bin. They have been very responsive to my inquires.

Whether this rifle is worth the price of admission? I don't know, only you can determine if the features to cost equation fits your budget. I've had some really inexpensive Savages that shoot incredibly well. How valuable is an ultralight rifle to you? What is your intended use for the rifle?

Cheers,
Toby
Just going to deer hunt with it and a little coyote hunting as well. Looking at getting it in .243 and liked the 20" carbon fiber barrel as I would be running it suppressed. I currently have a 243 that I hunt with but like most of us on here, I'm always wanting to try something else. I reload for everything that I currently have , so do not intend to be trying to run factory ammo in it. It appears that they may have their barrel issues resolved but I'm concerned by more responses of sloppy bolt fit and heavy/hard bolt lift...seems to be a common issue currently.
Thanks for your informative response as well.

Gene
 
I work on Christensens all the time. Where I live they are desirable by the Coues deer hunting crowd because they want light weight and long range and they are marketed as such. Honestly I would say they are 50/50 on if they shoot well or not. Every now and then you get one that shoots really well and the next one is a bear to get to MOA accuracy and the rough chamber / hard bolt is definitely common. I will say I do like the FFT stocks though, very comfortable to me and they do work well for a light weight pack around rifle.
 
I work on Christensens all the time. Where I live they are desirable by the Coues deer hunting crowd because they want light weight and long range and they are marketed as such. Honestly I would say they are 50/50 on if they shoot well or not. Every now and then you get one that shoots really well and the next one is a bear to get to MOA accuracy and the rough chamber / hard bolt is definitely common. I will say I do like the FFT stocks though, very comfortable to me and they do work well for a light weight pack around rifle.
You just verified where I'm at on this...best guess is a 50/50 shot of getting a good one and don't want to be dealing with bolt and chamber issues and having to send it back to try to get it right. There are other options out there that have better odds. I do like the looks of the FFT stock and they do offer just the stock for sale... may just shorten the barrel on my Rem 700 243 and put it in the FFT stock.
Thanks for your input...appreciate it.

Gene
 

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