I have the same problem with most / all factory stocks regardless of brand or caliber, as a result, all my guns have after market, adjustable stocks.
Cheek weld
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6BRA
Gold $$ Contributor
the plate in my neck doesnt like the hard cant either. Agree
I'm with you also. I'm 5'3" short and all my rifles with large objective riflescopes have some sort of after market cheek pad to raise my eye to the scope's center. If you use a smaller scope, set lower, or iron sights, there is less need for this. But short stature, combined with big scopes require some way of raising your face to the level of the scope, while still maintaining good contact with the stock. Cabelas used to have some nice leather cheekpads available that laced on. On some stocks they would shift, so I tended to glue them on in addition to the lacing. On a particular synthetic stock I actually screwed it on through the lace eyelets instead of the laces.
Shortening the length-of-pull to 13" also made a difference vs. factory 13.5"-13.75".
But, yes, fitting your rifle to YOU is important, specially when you are at either extreme of the "standard" person size.
Good luck!
Luisyamaha
Shortening the length-of-pull to 13" also made a difference vs. factory 13.5"-13.75".
But, yes, fitting your rifle to YOU is important, specially when you are at either extreme of the "standard" person size.
Good luck!
Luisyamaha
I have a lace down style riser that I bought at cabela’s a few years ago.
My problem with all the add on risers I tried was that they have a tendency to slip around a bit. To correct that issue I put self stick Velcro under the riser / stock , then tied it down in place. Worked out well for me.
If a riser will not work for you , the next option is to go as low as possible with ring and scope objective diameter.
My problem with all the add on risers I tried was that they have a tendency to slip around a bit. To correct that issue I put self stick Velcro under the riser / stock , then tied it down in place. Worked out well for me.
If a riser will not work for you , the next option is to go as low as possible with ring and scope objective diameter.
There is a real conflict between how stocks look and how they fit. This is exacerbated by the move toward scopes with large objective bells, mounted high.
The other issue is, practically speaking, stocks don't fit perfectly in all positions. The shooter always has to adapt to the stock, to a certain extent. This is why the adjustable stocks are becoming more and more popular.
I make or alter stocks for my own silhouette rifles. These stocks have to fit within certain parameters and at the same time, fit me for shooting offhand. Once I have accomplished that, I can put it to use as long as I have the scope mounted at the right height and at the right distance form my eye; and as long as I am shooting offhand. The same setup will not work all that well from any other position. It will be OK sitting or kneeling but lousy from prone.
Regarding cheek weld: from all positions, it seems to improve the hold. From prone, especially those of us who are in that more mature demographic, it eases the strain on our old, stiff, necks!
Ultimately, only the shooter can know if his stock is comfortable for him and, apart from the stock, what adjustments or accommodations he might want to make to make it work. WH
The other issue is, practically speaking, stocks don't fit perfectly in all positions. The shooter always has to adapt to the stock, to a certain extent. This is why the adjustable stocks are becoming more and more popular.
I make or alter stocks for my own silhouette rifles. These stocks have to fit within certain parameters and at the same time, fit me for shooting offhand. Once I have accomplished that, I can put it to use as long as I have the scope mounted at the right height and at the right distance form my eye; and as long as I am shooting offhand. The same setup will not work all that well from any other position. It will be OK sitting or kneeling but lousy from prone.
Regarding cheek weld: from all positions, it seems to improve the hold. From prone, especially those of us who are in that more mature demographic, it eases the strain on our old, stiff, necks!
Ultimately, only the shooter can know if his stock is comfortable for him and, apart from the stock, what adjustments or accommodations he might want to make to make it work. WH
6MMsteve
Gold $$ Contributor
try some wrap first before you buy, then buy as close to the wrap as you can, you can make something and kinda get an Idea what you like...don't be afraid to wrap something around the stock to get comfy, if it makes you shoot better go for it
https://triadtactical.com/triad-stock-pack/
Triad has some popular choices.
Triad has some popular choices.
That will depend on the type of shooting you are doing as well as the caliber. You don't want to try "free recoil" with a 458 Win Mag.
Target shooting with very low recoil calibers such as the 223 - 6mmBR, very light touch (or extremely consistent) on the stock for the most part.
More recoil, firmer the contact.
Moderate to heavy recoil with a hunting weight rifle and you also have to learn to hold the forearm properly too.
Totally agree with Dusty about the weird shaped butt stock on traditional Weatherby rifle. The stock was originally designed by Roy Weatherby to accommodate, to mitigate the higher recoil of the Weatherby cartridges. These stocks are designed to shoot from a standing position and the rifle during recoil is the the rifle and cherk pieco moves rearward away from the shooters cheek so as not to get punched it, and extreme drop in comb of the butt stock is to cause the rifle to not as much push back, but to roll up to help mitigate recoil.
I’ve shot a few Weatherby rifles, and the only Weatherby cartridge that I deemed his rifle stock design was an advantage was a Mk5 chambered in 460 Weatherby, and did that rifle roll back and up on me. Good thing I had left behind me (Left hand shooter for long guns. Right eye injury.) Recently helped a friend sight in his new Weatherby Laser Mark chambered in 300 Weatherby Mag, and it was somewhat punishing to shoot it from a bench.
Maybe consider replacing the rifle’s stock with a stock with a straight comb and minimal drop in heal. After all the Weatherby Vanguard you have is chambered in 270 Winchester, which is not a terrible recoiling cartridge.
Triple K lace-on leather cheek pad. $50.00 at Cabela's.
Luisyamaha
Luisyamaha
The height of the comb of the stock is different on each rifle. Plus the scope mounts can be different hights on each. DIY: Find some foam rubber cut to fit then used cammo gaffers tape, to tape to stock.
Or you can buy these things on Amazon. What you are experiencing is not the exception.
Made in usa (no affiliate) https://www.amazon.com/Beartooth-Co...032471&sprefix=cheek+well,aps,84&sr=8-40&th=1
Or you can replace stock (more expensive)
Or you can buy these things on Amazon. What you are experiencing is not the exception.
Made in usa (no affiliate) https://www.amazon.com/Beartooth-Co...032471&sprefix=cheek+well,aps,84&sr=8-40&th=1
Or you can replace stock (more expensive)
Amazon.com : Magpul Hunter American Stock for Ruger American Short Action Rifles, Olive Drab Green : Sports & Outdoors
Amazon.com : Magpul Hunter American Stock for Ruger American Short Action Rifles, Olive Drab Green : Sports & Outdoors
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Boyd's At-One adjustable stock on my deer rifle: https://www.boydsgunstocks.com/at-one
It works.....
Internet word. You can spend a custom barrel worth of crap in no time. I use 1.5 high rings, barely touch the stock with my face to keep my pulse out of it and get a reliable 2/3 offhand at 650 on 18x24 plate with a custom barrrel. Same results at 500 with an old Winchester with 4500 rounds on it. Seven years ago while recovering from some health issues I started at 50. Practice trumps stuff.
Good thing everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
For hunting rifles ( no longer hunt) that I’ve used for decades none worked so well for me as my Weatherby’s. The ability to attain a perfect cheek weld combined with a perfect cold bore shot made them a perfect hunting rifle. Recoil, never really noticed a difference if you compare apples to apples.
An additional plus was beautiful wood, excellent finish, including outstanding blueing.
About the furthest from ‘ do what you can’ I’ve experienced
lazyMlazyK
Silver $$ Contributor
I'm of the opinion that most factory stocks that don't include any kind of adjustable cheek riser are built to traditional specs where a scope with a smaller objective lens is used. With a shorter scope height, you can get away with a shorter comb. But, a larger objective lens typically means taller rings, and taller rings means a higher comb might be in order. With all of the 50mm+ scopes out there these days, I'm surprised more factory rifles don't come with a stock that includes an adjustable comb.
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