SongdogHunter
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his pops turned him in 22 year old Utah residentAny information being given on suspect?
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his pops turned him in 22 year old Utah residentAny information being given on suspect?
Actually a youth pastorWell it sounds like they have him!
As stated above, turned in by his father.
Thank you. When he dropped off the building and started running, he was lugging )as you say) a longish a dark-colored bag of some sort. Didn't everyone see the video of him "limping" beforehand with a rifle in his right pants leg? It either had a folding stock or was a very short, compact rifle. I think I see the deltoid outline of a shoulder stock over his upper thigh, under his pants. Above that a rectangular outline of a smart phone in a pants pocket.It looked to me like he was carrying something on the longish side as he dropped from the roof of the building. EDITED I just watched it closer. Not a full length FA. pretty advanced takedown rifle or folding stock. Vintage Mauser doesn't fit that bill. Guy looked pretty agile.
Ok, is his LEO dad sight-impaired, or just doesn't watch TV news? The photos showing the killer very clearly were everywhere for, what, 24 hours? I would think his father would have leaped out of his skin upon first glance at those photos.Tyler Robinson, son of a career law enforcement veteran. Confessed to his dad.
You guys are looking for a conspiracy where one doesn't exist.
First, don't project your knowledge onto someone else. Just because you wouldn't do it that way doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't. Especially when it comes to the "this doesn't make sense" kinda stuff. Of course most of us wouldn't try jumping off a series of rooftops carrying a long rifle. But a 20-something who is obviously not in their right mind and doesn't have any training would. Also, the footage of the alleged shooter leaving the roof is so grainy you can't tell what he may or may not be carrying, or how. I suspect he was carrying it, got to the woods and realized "Why the hell am I lugging this boat-anchor around with me?", and dropped it. There is also another video that claims to be of the shooter escaping that is actually from a different shooting in June or July in Nevada. Make sure you are looking at the right one, people.
The gun itself is pretty indicative of the fact that the person isn't a pro. Just look at how it is set up. Looks a lot like the franken-guns and other crappy firearms used in recent attacks by mentally ill children.
Finally, the location of the shot is about 140 yards from where Charlie was sitting. The fact that he was hit in the neck also provides evidence of the shooter's lack of skill. Just like the Trump shooter, I suspect he was going for a head shot and missed. Unfortunately, unlike the Trump shooter, he missed in such a manner that he did hit something vital. A pro wouldn't miss and surely wouldn't aim for the neck.
quote: "davidjoe"A hobby grade drone can see what everyone below is up to. Not to demean LE, but this was a fail, not a 33 hour “catch” and he’s caught now because of of super cheap video cameras that we can afford to saturate our country with and extremely inexpensive data storage so that we don’t have to overwrite for weeks. Without those cameras, this was never solved.
Hind sight is very easy, as they say.. I agree with you about a drone and I wasn't going to get on this forum and sound off, but I am. "IF" drone had been used in Butler, PA and UT we would not be where we are today.. Easy to judge now, but what in the "h" are these "security experts" doing?
Not me. My math and engineering training to blame, perhaps, but I don't accept anything I see or hear at face value. I solve any such puzzle myself, methodically, logically from the beginning, building on facts I can prove to my own satisfaction. It may take longer than desired, and I may fail, but no one does my thinking for me.Watching mainstream media to interpret events for you is a form of cognitive outsourcing.
This is indicative of many people, and I understand.
My brother-in-law listens to ABC world news tonight with David Muir. Told me how well informed that keeps him and how reliable David Muir's reporting isBut the people they turn to (MSM) are habitual liars, so believing anything that comes from their mouths is a fools game.
Could be worse. My sister watches CNN or MSNBC every waking moment she's home. And she's completely brainwashed, to the point she has trouble sleeping worrying about the imminent authoritarian rule. I kid you not. Soaking it up is like an addiction to heroin to those with TDS. Thing is, she knows absolutely nothing about national or world affairs, has no opinion on social issues or border security, is completely uninformed and uneducated beyond HS. Why does she hate him? He's crass, boastful, "lies constantly" and doesn't look presidential. That's about as deep as it goes. Everything else she knows comes from CNN, MSNBC, or doomscrolling the echo chamber. Anything from those sources are facts. End of discussion.My brother-in-law listens to ABC world news tonight with David Muir.
My generation has always had a difficult time accepting the fact that a two bit looser could take a military rifle purchased via mail order for less than $100 and snuff out the life of the President of The United States.You guys are looking for a conspiracy where one doesn't exist.
First, don't project your knowledge onto someone else. Just because you wouldn't do it that way doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't. Especially when it comes to the "this doesn't make sense" kinda stuff. Of course most of us wouldn't try jumping off a series of rooftops carrying a long rifle. But a 20-something who is obviously not in their right mind and doesn't have any training would. Also, the footage of the alleged shooter leaving the roof is so grainy you can't tell what he may or may not be carrying, or how. I suspect he was carrying it, got to the woods and realized "Why the hell am I lugging this boat-anchor around with me?", and dropped it. There is also another video that claims to be of the shooter escaping that is actually from a different shooting in June or July in Nevada. Make sure you are looking at the right one, people.
The gun itself is pretty indicative of the fact that the person isn't a pro. Just look at how it is set up. Looks a lot like the franken-guns and other crappy firearms used in recent attacks by mentally ill children.
Finally, the location of the shot is about 140 yards from where Charlie was sitting. The fact that he was hit in the neck also provides evidence of the shooter's lack of skill. Just like the Trump shooter, I suspect he was going for a head shot and missed. Unfortunately, unlike the Trump shooter, he missed in such a manner that he did hit something vital. A pro wouldn't miss and surely wouldn't aim for the neck.
Ok, is his LEO dad sight-impaired, or just doesn't watch TV news? The photos showing the killer very clearly were everywhere for, what, 24 hours? I would think his father would have leaped out of his skin upon first glance at those photos.
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I stand rebuked.There’s a story to reflect on about Abraham.
I stand rebuked.
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