can a 6.5 keep up with the dasher at 600 yds

[broncman]

Great advice Shynloco!

Sounds like you will be doing the work yourself. That is a huge enjoyment for me. I did all my stock work from the blank to the machining of the cheek adjuster.

Enjoy your project!

 

[stool]

ok i asked a bit different on brcentral and stopped....
then i thought what about a variation ??
over there i asked about shooting a 308 based round at 600yd ONLY (i have a 1000yd gun).
when i got a bunch of answers i sprung the truth on them...
the rifle would be based on a mosin nagant 91/30 family and its rimmed round..7.62x54r(54r)....
with modern powders it can out run the 308 win even tho it has a lower operating pressure.....
so time passes and i do a search..the russians built a 6.5x54r called the 6.7x54r russian biathlon....

soo now i am thinking of a 28" bbl or so 140 bergers close to 2900 fps in a mn !

real br stock, 12-42 night force..1/8 twist.......
my gun for me...the challenge of building and shooting in the mix..not DAL(DEAD AZZLAST).....
like i said, i like doing it different. the challenge of the build and then shooting...

OK now let the fun begin!

 

[stool]

just how different can i be ??
i own the only FACTORY cz85 in 9x21 in the usa( at the time, who knows now..this was way back).

the smile on one's face after triple tapping 7 targets in a 14 rd course( 21 rds) with no reload, and still coming in first.

9x21 was eventually banned as a major, but my club let me continue to use it in club matches...right up till 2 yrs ago i was still shooting 9x21.
(cz 85 is an ambidextrous version of the famed cz75)

 

[Patch700]

ok i asked a bit different on brcentral and stopped....
then i thought what about a variation ??
over there i asked about shooting a 308 based round at 600yd ONLY (i have a 1000yd gun).
when i got a bunch of answers i sprung the truth on them...
the rifle would be based on a mosin nagant 91/30 family and its rimmed round..7.62x54r(54r)....
with modern powders it can out run the 308 win even tho it has a lower operating pressure.....
so time passes and i do a search..the russians built a 6.5x54r called the 6.7x54r russian biathlon....

soo now i am thinking of a 28" bbl or so 140 bergers close to 2900 fps in a mn !

real br stock, 12-42 night force..1/8 twist.......
my gun for me...the challenge of building and shooting in the mix..not DAL(DEAD AZZLAST).....
like i said, i like doing it different. the challenge of the build and then shooting...

OK now let the fun begin!

.....Just going out on a limb here... Are you of the opinion that the inception of the automatic transmission was the greatest downfall to the automotive industry? .. Lol , all kidding aside I love seeing things that venture off the beaten path.

 

[stool]

no, but i did not drive an automatic as my car till i was commuting in traffic everyday.
sold my last manual about three yrs back..it was still young on 474,000 miles on it.

ok i asked a bit different on brcentral and stopped....
then i thought what about a variation ??
over there i asked about shooting a 308 based round at 600yd ONLY (i have a 1000yd gun).
when i got a bunch of answers i sprung the truth on them...
the rifle would be based on a mosin nagant 91/30 family and its rimmed round..7.62x54r(54r)....
with modern powders it can out run the 308 win even tho it has a lower operating pressure.....
so time passes and i do a search..the russians built a 6.5x54r called the 6.7x54r russian biathlon....

soo now i am thinking of a 28" bbl or so 140 bergers close to 2900 fps in a mn !

real br stock, 12-42 night force..1/8 twist.......
my gun for me...the challenge of building and shooting in the mix..not DAL(DEAD AZZLAST).....
like i said, i like doing it different. the challenge of the build and then shooting...

OK now let the fun begin!

.....Just going out on a limb here... Are you of the opinion that the inception of the automatic transmission was the greatest downfall to the automotive industry? .. Lol , all kidding aside I love seeing things that venture off the beaten path.

 

[ebb]

If Lapua doesn't make brass for it forget it. Anything I own that you can't buy Lapua brass for is constant work keeping match prepped cases ready. Ive never heard of that caliber but many European cartridges are made by Lapua or Norma.

 

[dmoran]

Mike (stool) -

Wow.... your basically describing a 260-Rem (6.5x52) without the extra BS (russian biathlon, 54r, etc.) and capacity.

With this your now/new extended input.... for 600yd Benchrest, I will suggest (my opinion) you will not run with the Dasher (or any 6BR-Family) nor will it with the 6.5x47 Lapua.
The 6.5x47 Lapua will do exactly what your expecting from this 54mm case, with less powder (hence more efficiency, hence more inherent accuracy), and do it on proven brass of a BR cartridge design (shoulder angle/body taper/primer pocket).

Q&A for you:
- why do the 6BR family out perform a 243-Win (6x52) in Benchrest?
- same for the 6.5x47 Lapua to a 260-Rem (6.5x52)?
- same for a 300-WSM to a 300-WM?
Answer: more efficiency (less powder to do the same job) which equals more inherent accuracy and aggregate capability. Why? - more consistency to the burning of less powder <> and a cleaner burn cycle.

It's your world.... drive what you want...
D

 

[stool]

i agree with everything..but there would be no challenge in doing one of those.
a slight issue is cost..i am basically a retiree looking for things to do..
i just put together the parts for a 30br and have less $1000 in it without the scope which was only 350...

thanks to all for your input.

the cost of the dies might kill the plan..

Mike (stool) -

Wow.... your basically describing a 260-Rem (6.5x52) without the extra BS (russian biathlon, 54r, etc.) and capacity.

With this your now/new extended input.... for 600yd Benchrest, I will suggest (my opinion) you will not run with the Dasher (or any 6BR-Family) nor will it with the 6.5x47 Lapua.
The 6.5x47 Lapua will do exactly what your expecting from this 54mm case, with less powder (hence more efficiency, hence more inherent accuracy), and do it on proven brass of a BR cartridge design (shoulder angle/body taper/primer pocket).

Q&A for you:
- why do the 6BR family out perform a 243-Win (6x52) in Benchrest?
- same for the 6.5x47 Lapua to a 260-Rem (6.5x52)?
- same for a 300-WSM to a 300-WM?
Answer: more efficiency (less powder to do the same job) which equals more inherent accuracy and aggregate capability. Why? - more consistency to the burning of less powder <> and a cleaner burn cycle.

It's your world.... drive what you want...
D

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Stool,
It seems like you don't really want to be competetive, but want to just be different. I promise you, you can have the best shooting rifle on the line and there will still be a lot of challenge to the sport. If you want to make it harder, by all means shoot what ever caliber you want. I guess I don't quite understand what you are looking for, seems like you had your mind made up before you asked the question.

 

[stool]

no, and yes.
.yes i wanted to get there differently. yes i wanted to use the mn action...but my original plans were side tracked...which was to shoot the 7.62x54r in 600 br....
so i looked for a 6 or a 6.5 on the case..and there is one
what makes you think it will not be competitive ??
same ballistics as others including the 6.5x47

Stool,
It seems like you don't really want to be competetive, but want to just be different. I promise you, you can have the best shooting rifle on the line and there will still be a lot of challenge to the sport. If you want to make it harder, by all means shoot what ever caliber you want. I guess I don't quite understand what you are looking for, seems like you had your mind made up before you asked the question.

 

[JRS]

Stool,
It seems like you don't really want to be competetive, but want to just be different. I promise you, you can have the best shooting rifle on the line and there will still be a lot of challenge to the sport. If you want to make it harder, by all means shoot what ever caliber you want. I guess I don't quite understand what you are looking for, seems like you had your mind made up before you asked the question.

At some point Alex, you'll learn to ignore Mike, aka stool. He did the same thing for a few years on Benchrest Central : until Wilbur booted him from the site ;D