Boron Nitride question

[broncman]

I am thinking about using it on my factory Savage 308 FT/R. The gun fouls terrible and is hard to clean. I have read all the articles but they do not mention wether treating the barrel is a one time deal or treat with HBN after each thorough cleaning.

The barrel is shooting good but fouls pretty quick. Gonna give the HBN a try on the bullets and bore before I pull the barrel.

Ken

 

[Hopkins]

Treating the barrel alone won't be sufficient. You will need to use HbN coated bullets as well. In my experience the barrel treatment is the lessser part of the equation. I have shot the coated bullets in treated and untreated barrels with much the same results.

 

[GSPV]

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2013/02/hexagonal-boron-nitride-hbn-how-well-does-it-work/

 

[broncman]

As I said earlier, the above referenced article is unclear on the barrel treatment portion. I have read the authors blog as well.

I do plan on doing the bullets as well. I am assuming the barrel treatment IS NOT a one time treatment?

 

[GSPV]

I didn't see any ambiguity in the article. You use the alcohol-HBN solution just like you'd use Lock-EZ after cleaning.

 

[Uthink Uknow]

I started using Boron at about the same time as Paul who wrote that article that the link led us to. I have coated bullets and give the barrel the same treatment every time I clean. First thing I'll say about the Boron is that if you are concerned about health issues, who better take your wife's or girlfriend's or your makeup and throw it out as boron is used in the manufacture of makeup. Hmm, maybe that's why I've become so handsome since using it on the shooting stuff. I use only stainless steel barrels and I use the boron on those barrels and on my BR bullets.
To answer broncman, in BR I clean these stainless steel barrels after every target or about every 10-15 shots and when I'm done with the solvent and/or the brush and dry swabs, I run a patch of boron/alcohol down the bore. The bore cleans easily even though I am probably cleaning more often than I have to. But it's BR and there is time and if it doesn't hurt the barrel and helps the score, why not do it?
As far as barrel life is concerned, I have found or feel that the treatments increase barrel life but I'm not smart or rich enough to base that on any extensive tests. And I don't intend to now with components getting harder to find and to pay for. My .30 caliber equipment has always outlasted the 6mm and .22 caliber stuff as that is just the physics of it all. I'm not going to stop using Boron as I have found no adverse results from using it.

 

[SDDasher]

. I'm not going to stop using Boron as I have found no adverse results from using it.

I'm not going to start using Boron as I have found no adverse results from not using it.
As someone else has already observed; just another thing to have to deal with in a sport complicated enough as it is already.

 

[Uthink Uknow]

In a sport where a thousandth of an inch matters, I choose to go the route that makes me feel good and bring good results. There are, evident to me, a number of benefits to using boron with no ill factors, upon which I expounded.

 

[AndyTaber]

I've been using hBn since i got into Benchrest shooting and will continue, if for no other reason, than it may possibly give my barrels some extra life.

 

[Nomad47]

http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/topic/9031/hBN-again-and-this-time-I-ll-leave-it#.T3hkodnui00

I have a 6XC barrel with 585 rounds down the tube. It got the hBN on a mop treatment before the first shot was fired. It gets dry patches every 20 to 40 rounds. No chemicals or brushes have gone down the bore. And it shoots great.

 

[GSPV]

The value is ease of cleanup. If you're running the rod down the barrel less, it's probably going to last longer.

 

[broncman]

Ease of cleanup and to stop fouling is my reasons to try it..by the end of a 3x20 at 1000....thats 66 rounds to shoot with no time to clean between matches.

This factory barreled is fouled pretty good by then. Not sure accuracy is holding for that many rds either...

 

[GSPV]

Works for David Tubb. 8)

 

[Scott Harris]

I made my kids coat about 15K bullets last summer and we've been shooting them ever since. Sad to say, but I have not noticed any difference in performance, barrel wear, barrel fouling or anything else. Admittedly, I have not tried to do a carefully controlled study, but nothing obvious has changed. Now, I really respect David Tubb's opinion and I think he carefully tests EVERYTHING he does. So, in this case, guess I'll keep coating bullets because it is dirt simple to do and takes very little time to do large batches.....especially true when I have little minions to order around.

 

[19zip]

I puchased some of the 70 nm (MK-hBN-N70-Nano) and have been coating bullets OK for a while now. My question is will the 70 nm (MK-hBN-N70-Nano) mixed with the 90% alcohol be alright for the barrel coating slurry or do I need to get some of the AC6111 Grade HBN ??
It says to use about one teaspoon in 16 ounces of alcohol. Where can I get a small amount of the AC6111 Grade HBN ?? Enough to use to make one or two 16 ounces of alcohol slurry?? Thanks for any help...

 

[kelbro]

I used the 70nm for making the slurry. Seemed to work OK.

 

[Waskawood]

Is anyone using the slurry in stainless steel barrels or only in CM as the original article suggests?

 

[Nomad47]

Is anyone using the slurry in stainless steel barrels or only in CM as the original article suggests?

I'm using hBN in all my stainless barrels.

 

[Lone.Watcher]

I used the 70nm for making the slurry. Seemed to work OK.

Just a question about making that slurry please? What is your formula/process?

 

[Bill Norris]

The biggest pay back from HBN for me is my barrels heat up slower. I believe it does aid in the ease of barrel cleaning as well but have not done any type of test other than normal cleaning practices.