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Bore Tech cleaning rods-a bad rap!

I recently had a friend ask me what brand of cleaning rod I use. When I answered Bore Tech he replied "I read where the coating comes off, I wouldn't use one of those." Well that prompted me to write this reply to all those under the same misguided impression.

I've been using the same 6MM, 40 inch Bore Tech Bore Stix cleaning rod for the past seven years, and the coating is as good as the day I bought it! Why's that? Did I just get a good one? Well here's my opinion on the subject.

First and foremost you need a good proper fitting bore guide. Not just proper fitting to the action and chamber, but also proper fitting to your rods diameter as well. While the Sinclair type fits the action and chamber well the internal diameter allows the rod to bend and flex too much. Combine that with a real tight patch and that bending and flexing of the rod allows it to rub against those sharp edges going into the chamber and this in turn will peel the coating just like peeling an apple. It only takes one time. I personally like the Lucas bore guide, Mike Lucas custom fits the guide to your action, chamber, and to your cleaning rod, eliminating any play that would allow your rod to rattle it's way into the bore. You can order one from Mike direct, or through James Phillips at the Reloaders Nest. They aren't that much more expensive, and are well worth the investment.
Also a too long rod exiting the muzzle on the back stroke can ride against the crown doing the same thing. If your smith cut a proper crown, it is as sharp as a razor. Don't believe me? Look at it thru a magnifying glass. I simply use some white medical tape on the rod to limit how much rod exits the bore. Just enough of the jag to remove the patch insures that the rod stays centered in the bore and dosen't touch that delicate crown.

Sometimes the chemical concoctions mixed up by shooters will, or can eat the coating of of rods, and harm the bore as well. All of the commercial cleaning solvents are relatively safe by themselves, it's when shooters start mixing brand X with brand Y and then throwing in a squirt of brand Z for good measure that a potentially dangerous and sometimes lethal situation can result, not only to the bore but to the shooter as well. Don't think those fumes can kill you? Just mix the wrong combination and it won't take a period of time to do the job on your respiratory system, that first time can be enough to send you on your way to the pearly gates. Remember chemical warfare, it got it's start by mixing a couple of safe chemicals together, so be forewarned. So, if you aren't a chemist you'd better leave well enough alone.
While I'm on that subject, just how many shooters go to the bother of asking for the M.S.D.S. sheets for the solvents their using? I do, but I'm in the minority. Just get one for your favorite chemical and read it, you'll be surprised just how dangerous and carcinogenic your favorite cleaning agent can be.

So back to the original reason for this thread. It dosen't matter what coated cleaning rod you use, if you use it improperly that coating won't last long, and you have no one to blame but yourself.

I'll stick with my Bore Tech rods, they have served me well.

Danny
 
I just picked up a 6.5mm 44" BoreTeck for my 6.5x284's. To my surprise, they won't fit in the Lucas bushing, so I'm still using my old Dewey for now.

I'm not sure it I want to drill out my bushing, or if I should call Lucas and order a bushing to fit the 6.5mm rod.

A buddy of mine has been using a Bore Stix 22cal rod for about 8 years now. The handle still rolls for like 45 seconds when he spins it, and it still has all the coating.

Chris...
 
Chris,

I'd call Mike Lucas and get one sized for the Bore Tech rod. The problem is Dewey and other company's cover calibers from 22 to 270 with just one rod, therefore it can't be any larger than the smallest caliber,22). The Bore Tech rods cover less calibers so you benefit by having a larger diameter rod which equals less flex, and better sized to your bore.

Danny
 
I have used Bore Tech rods with Lucas bore guides. Used cleaning solutions just as they come out of the bottle. No home brews for me. And the coating on the 2 rods I had peeled. To be exact they bubbled up then peeled.

I also use Dewey and Lighting rods. Neither one of these rods coatings have peeled, bubbled or any other sign of coming undone.

I may have gotten 2 badly coated rods from Bore Tech. I contacted them and was given the runaround.

So for me if your are happy good. I wasn't satisfied with the product or their customer support.

The cleaning solutions however work fine for me.
 
I have four brand new bore tech rods,6.5 and 30 cal) finally back from Bore Tech for the coating peeling. For sale cheap.

Only took me 4 months, 3 letters, 12 emails and phone calls and one posting on the internet for them to finally return a phone call to me and send them back.

I was using Lucas bore guides that I modified,drilled out) to fit the rods in all my guns so that sure was not the issue.

It was Bore Tech Eliminator that finally took the coating off also on the 6.5 and 30 cal,30 cal rods only had been used with Eliminator and lucas guides).

Now I use Dewey rods with custom extensions added by them. Only costs $45,compared to the 50" BT rod for $38) with the custom extension and lasts forever as the coating is much thicker. Just ordered two extra long 50" 6mm this week.

Bore Tech rods have great handles and bearings, poor coating,too thin) and even poorer customer service at least in my case and confirmed by coupe dealers that are dropping them for same reason. But just my opinion.

BH
 
Bounty Hunter,

The 6.5 rods, how long are they, and how cheap is cheap?
Shoot me an e-mail at dreever@supernet.com

Danny
 
I can only tell you about my own personal dealings with Bore Tech. Every time I have called Bob Rambo I have been treated courteously and with respect. Mr Rambo has gone out of his way to help me, even sending me a free sample of Eliminator to try after one of our phone conversations.

I admit I do not like the extra charges on their web site such as paying a handling charge on top of shipping, or paying an extra $3.00 for a shipping tube, but that's their policy, so I either live with it or go elsewhere. It's my choice. Company's such as Lock Stock and Barrel handle their products so to save a few $$$ I buy my Eliminator from them.

Since I haven't had any problems with Bore Tech I will continue to use their products, I can't say much else on the matter.

Danny
 
I jumped on the Bore Tech bandwagon when they came out. Great handles and bearings. But it didn't take too longf for the coating to just start peeling off. mostly just behind the jag, probably the worst place for it to happen.

At first, I wasn't too worried, because the benchrest community is a good one, and people stand up for what they sell. I was quite surprised and taken aback when Bore Tech told me they WOULD NOT replace the rod and/or coating, unless I paid for it!

The whole convincing things is, I still use the same two Dewey rods, that I had BEFORE I bought the BT's, and they have not peeled at all. Now you tell me, how can Dewey's stand up amd BT's not? Aint got nuthin to do with bore guides, solvents, etc.

What is proper BR community service? Years ago I bought a Sinclair windage top. Installed it and wasn't really satisfied because to had slop in it and would rock. So I purchased another brand top and forgot about the whole thing. A couple months later, I came home to a box on my porch, and in it was a new windage top from Sinclairs, with an explaination that they realized they had a problem with the tops they sold at that time, and replaced them free of charge, without even being asked. Now THAT is service and a company standing behind their product.

Slice it anyway you like, but when a company won't stand behind a faulty product, they don't get repeat business.
 
I too have a bore tech cleaning rod that has peeled and they refused to talk to me about this as well. My take is if you can't stand behind what you sell then get out as sooner or later you will be replaced. I now use Tipton Carbon Fiber rods and they are sweet bearings are nice and they will never impregnate with grit such as the coated rods can and will do.
 
I too have a bore tech cleaning rod that has peeled and they refused to talk to me about this as well. My take is if you can't stand behind what you sell then get out as sooner or later you will be replaced. I now use Tipton Carbon Fiber rods and they are sweet bearings are nice and they will never impregnate with grit such as the coated rods can and will do.
I hVE ONE THAT DOES NOT FIT DOWN THE BARREL IT IS DESIGNED FOR. ALSO, THE HANDLE SLIDES DOWN THE ROD WHEN YOU TRY TO PUSH IT IN. IT IS JUNK
 
I got a bore tech rod i bought when they were so new they were peddling them at matches. The coating came off at that same match. It looks like spray paint. They looked at it and said hmm that sucks. I still have it in my cleaning rod collection- Mainly to remind me. It was used with a lucas bore guide and bore tech eliminator i bought and tried at that match.
 
Another thing I learned the hard way with regards to bearings in the handles of all cleaning rods is to wipe rod thoroughly before storing UPRIGHT with handle at top,I stood mine in the corner of the room handle down which helped even the smallest amount of cleaning fluid to eventually find its way into the bearing...Bin jobs after 6months.. I now hang them on the wall in fishing rod holders.
 
I got a bore tech rod i bought when they were so new they were peddling them at matches. The coating came off at that same match. It looks like spray paint. They looked at it and said hmm that sucks. I still have it in my cleaning rod collection- Mainly to remind me. It was used with a lucas bore guide and bore tech eliminator i bought and tried at that match.
Im guessing you no longer use there rods, do you still use there cleaning fluids?
 
I just picked up a 6.5mm 44" BoreTeck for my 6.5x284's. To my surprise, they won't fit in the Lucas bushing, so I'm still using my old Dewey for now.

I'm not sure it I want to drill out my bushing, or if I should call Lucas and order a bushing to fit the 6.5mm rod.

A buddy of mine has been using a Bore Stix 22cal rod for about 8 years now. The handle still rolls for like 45 seconds when he spins it, and it still has all the coating.

Chris...
The bushing that is made by Mike Lucas is based on the diameter of the rod you are using, not the caliber of the barrel. You will need to measure the rod diameter when ordering a bore guide and he will fit a properly sized bushing.
 

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